Which Vaccine?

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  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 12:49pm

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    denmall

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    Which Vaccine?

Chris and Tribe,

Now that many institutions and businesses are going to require the vaccine, many of us are going to have to get it. Maybe we should have a thread or video (or maybe we do and I just can’t find it) on the pros/cons of each available vaccine. I’ve heard CM mention in various videos he likes Novavax, then J&J, then the others. But I’d love to hear why and if different people and health groups should prioritize one over the other. You can’t find any info on this anywhere. All health sites or experts just say get the V most available to you, which isn’t helpful if you can get any of the 3.

Appreciate all you do and how you always give us a balanced, fact based opinion. Keep up the great work.

  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 01:23pm

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    woman dies of COVID after Moderna vaccine

The Moderna vaccine didn’t help Candace Ayers.  She had her second dose of the vaccine in March and died in September.  Her family blames the unvaccinated for her death despite no evidence she was infected from an unvaccinated person.   Despite the obvious proof that the vaccination was useless for her, the family wants everyone to be vaccinated.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9997799/Family-blames-unvaccinated-death-fully-vaccinated-Illinois-woman-obituary.html

Candace Ayers, 66, of Springfield, was vaccinated with the Moderna shot in March along with her husband Terry before being infected with the virus. She died six months later, on September 3 at HSHS St. John’s Hospital.

Her family published an obituary which stated: ‘She was preceded in death by more than 4,531,799 others infected with Covid-19.

‘She was vaccinated but was infected by others who chose not to be. The cost was her life.’

Her son Marc believes that his mother contracted the virus in July after she and his father went to visit a friend, whose husband died of COVID-19, in Mississippi, where the vaccination rate is only 42%, according to the state’s health website.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/us/illinois-family-vaccine-obit/index.html

“I took my parents to get that second jab, and we were all so excited,” said their son, Marc Ayers. “We are a family that believes in science. We believe in masks, and we believe in vaccines. We were ready to get back to normal.”

But his mother, Candace Ayers, died nearly six months later following a July trip with her husband to Mississippi. Her death certificate says she died of Covid-19.

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“This all could have been avoided,” Ayers said. “This could have been prevented by a few acts of kindness. They were in a state that had one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country. Getting a vaccine and wearing a mask for others … had this been done, she would be here today.”

 

 

  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 03:39pm

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    Patricia Lucas

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Can anyone tell me the vaccine order as mentioned in CMs video. I can’t find it.  Also, anyone know if anything beyond pfizer or moderna is available in Alberta please?

  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 04:32pm

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    Which Vaccine?

My two cents is if you’re hesitant, ask yourself why.

If you’re still hesitant after thinking then don’t let a bureaucracy make you do what makes you uncomfortable.

  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 07:11pm

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    Which Vaccine? And we need to somehow update the narrative

I feel for this family’s loss, and unfortunately, their story is shared by too many people everywhere.

And I have to question how we arrived at where we are with the covid crisis?  If we recall, there was chaos at the onset of the pandemic.  For a while doctors didn’t know how to treat this virus. (Although I personally recall a doctor in New York who was interviewed very early on and who was prescribing essentially the FLCCC protocol in April of 2020 to over 600 patients with great success.  He was quickly swept under the media rug never to be heard from again)  And why was this?

Again, disaster capitalism took stride and through the botched, lying efforts of the Trump administration and the WHO and the CDC, decisions were made to demonize Hydroxychloroquine, the first drug to have potential against the virus.  Then masks were labeled, “ineffective,” and the narrative kept changing as the word vaccine was being inserted into the dialogue at regular intervals.  Finally, vaccination was presented as the only way to get to herd immunity, and this was to protect you from infection, so much so, one could go without a mask.  Quite the seduction to present vaccination as the means to “normal.”  So unfair to deliberately hide the scientific truth and wave “normal” in front of the faces of people so abused already with lockdowns, losing jobs, homes, loved ones…

No one I know, was told about any of the potential very serious side effects from these MRNA vaccines prior to getting their shots.  No one I know was told to continue to wear their mask after vaccination because their immune system was vulnerable to infection as the body needs at least 3 weeks to build up antibodies.  Not only were these individuals at risk for being infected with covid, they weren’t told they would be spreaders should they become infected.

And now, 18 months later, there is a lot of data on what is happening to people who have been and are being maimed and killed by experimental, FDA unapproved, vaccines in the largest unofficial, unpaid, clinical trial with complete legal impunity, sanctioned by entire countries governments.

And still to date, there are millions of people who do not know about the new and scientific data coming out regarding the other side of the vaccine debate.  I recently watched Eric Clapton’s interview where he’s talking about his very negative experience with his vaccination shots.  Not only did he suffer physical debility where he could not use his hands and feet due to the vaccine exacerbating a pre-existing neurological condition, but he greatly suffered mentally, emotionally and financially from the backlash of family, friends and fans who were upset with his view on HIS experience with the negative side effects.

As more and more information continues to come out about the truth of vaccine side effects, which include sudden death, I am hoping that the current narrative will have to change, which will shed new light on the truth of the limits of these experimental vaccines, which I also hope will help to end the scapegoating of those who have chosen to avoid them.

And finally, if the vaccines are so “effective,” then why are people who are vaccinated afraid of those who are not?  I think it could be that underneath all the BS propaganda, people do know the truth.

  • Thu, Sep 16, 2021 - 08:03pm

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    Which Vaccine?

If you are interested in comparing the different vaccines, where they are up to in the trial process, etc then try this page:

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  • Wed, Oct 13, 2021 - 12:27pm

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    Which Vaccine?

Bumping this post. I’m also wondering.

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