Where Will Food Come From?

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  • Wed, Dec 03, 2008 - 06:12am

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    Damnthematrix

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    Re: Where Will Food Come From?

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  • Wed, Dec 03, 2008 - 06:20am

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    Re: Where Will Food Come From?

This thread hits the spot – almost. I’m stil worried about water.

Joe you got it, "plant a seed and love it and it will treat you right". Watching the olive trees flower is better than TV!

But I was watching Harare in Zimbabwe on the news this morning. They’ve got cholera, cut off the water in Harare, now there are riots… I’m going to get back into meditation and all that spiritual stuff so I don’t die of a heart attack when the people around me here start rioting, because they will. One man, being interviewd in Harare, said "a hungry man is an angry man", and when I last visited in the township some of the people there said the same thing. Its an old Bob Marley lyric (them belly full but me hungry, a hungry man is an angry man), and is becoming a mantra. I’ve read too that in times like these we’re heading into that starving people will stone people who appear well fed.. because they obviously have a private stash.

I know this is terrifying, but I’m not anticipating starving to death peacefully. Just got to keep a cool head and open heart.

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  • Wed, Dec 03, 2008 - 07:21am

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    yep… what he said.

…"expect Japan to be forced to sell ever more of its huge pile of existing foreign reserves. You ain’t seen nothing yet when it comes to credit contraction, we’re only just beginning. And when credit contracts, so do exports. With that in mind, it’s easy to tick off the victims: the countries that rely most on customers abroad. No. 1 on that list must be China, where 2009 will be a year of ugliness, in many shapes and forms.

My 4-year old prediction of civil war in China by 2015 may have to be moved up yet again. If China’s economic growth goes down to 5%, the economy and the political system are going going gone and out of here. These newly built export economies are just too vulnerable, no resilience. Put Russia down as a close second, and reserve a space right behind for many developing countries. Other, more established, export powers to meet the hammer are for instance Germany, Holland,
Brazil, Austria, Belgium and Australia. Job losses will be staggering, and I don’t see any of these places seriously preparing
for it. It’s all blind growth religion. They should all take a good look at the Baltic Dry Shipping Index, which is approaching 600, from 200.000+ a few months ago. That, my friends, spells bleak and empty shelves coming to a place near you. Around January 20."…

http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/2008/12/debt-rattle-december-2-2008-im-sorry.html

  • Thu, Dec 04, 2008 - 04:06am

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    Re: yep… what he said.

We are already seeing a lot of Chinese workers rioting on Asian television. Factories are closing and unemployment is rising fast. A lot of people are angry at the government for letting this happen, and are not informed about the big economic picture, just the basic local picture of a factory closing.

Of course, your talking about a country that after the major earthquake they had, hundreds of mothers who lost children in the poorly built schools from collapse, were beaten down hard by police outside the government office in charge of regulating the building codes, little codes that they have.

Hey Joe2baba, I think they need unions in China! Maybe we can send the Big 3 Auto CEO’s over to help them out, and leave them in China forever. And also the UAW leaders should be sent as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Thu, Dec 04, 2008 - 04:46am

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    Re: yep… what he said.

collective bargaining would go a long way to raising the standard of living in china.

osha would make jobs much safer, the epa would keep melamine out of baby formula (by the way how is the baby?)

the epa would also make the coal plants sequester the carbon emissions.

or in the world you and matrix imagine this will all happen automatically because we are all doing jobs we like and there is no money.

just think about the chinese worker making $75 an hour. jeez our balance of payments would actually balance.

by the way how does one boss and ten mexicans figure into utopia?

 

  • Thu, Dec 04, 2008 - 04:56am

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    joe2baba

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    Re: Where Will Food Come From?

stop by the local coffee shops and get all their coffee grounds. it will help loosen the clay soil. dont know if you have a limestone quarry near by but the ones here sell ag lime is is ground up pretty fine helps with ph and loosening soil.

an acre is a lot to grow on. you can produce a huge amount. find someone with a woodlot and trade for wood. make your house super efficient and you wont need a whole lot.

way to go woodman

  • Thu, Dec 04, 2008 - 05:01am

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    Mexican Revenge

Well so far the baby is melamine free, LOL. We use a lot of American formula based goods here, but I am reading it’s made it’s way into American products as well. Actually, it’s Matrix’s idea, we are just adding the pro’s and con’s. I never said it would work or not.

As for the Mexicans, as punishment, the boss goes to the dirty jobs for a year for taking advantage of the poor Mexicans.

  • Thu, Dec 04, 2008 - 05:15am

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    Re: Mexican Revenge

ok you can be king and make the rules.

i trust you …………………will you still respect me in the morning, is the check in the mail …….etc.

  • Thu, Dec 04, 2008 - 05:22am

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    Re: Mexican Revenge

No, not King. Maybe a Warlord or General, but never King.

  • Thu, Dec 04, 2008 - 12:14pm

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    Re: Where Will Food Come From?

This is a large scale worm farm, (vermicomposting) something I am doing now on a much smaller scale, and without the cows. It’s very possible for you to raise your own worms, even to the point of breeding & selling the worms, the castings, and the compost tea.

Beginning with one thousand sexuallymature adult redworms, and including their offspring, and their offspring’s offspring, etc., it is possible to produce over one million red worms in one year. (By the end of the second year, the total would be over one billion.) Redworms currently sell for about $25.00 per pound





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