Where have all the old people gone?

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  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 02:38pm

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    Jim H

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    Great to hear from you AO, and glad you are staying healthy in your cancer fight

A few thoughts;

If you have not been reading regularly, and I fully understand decompressing away from the front lines of this information war… but if you have not been reading you may have missed a few “dots” that connect… post vax. there have been multiple reports of high PSA readings for those who are being monitored for such.  Not immediately indicative of cancer progressing, but not good either.  As well there were reports of tumors previously under control having grown and spread post vax.  This all seems to comport with a generalized immune suppression that occurs at the very least between jab 1 and jab 2, which has led to so many cases of Covid-19 in nursing/care homes post vax campaigns.

I went out and bought an expensive high performance car for our travels

LOL.. I did this also last year.  Although I drive a 2013 Nissan Leaf (with 10 bars for those in the know) to the office, I have a BMW 650i convertible in the garage.  It’s worthy of being in a museum – a 2010 with ~5000 miles on it.  We all need our own ways to escape the madness.. mine is putting my foot into 360 normally aspirated HP and feeling the wind and smelling the farms as we drive by.  My excuse is not as good as yours : )

Again, thank you for checking in and for sending some positive energy the tribe’s way… Best regards, JimH

 

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 02:56pm

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    Genius_Level_IQ

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    Where have all the old people gone?

You’re just looking in the wrong places. Look at the roads. Most of the cars are driven by old people (where I live). Most of the time, the newer-looking the car, the older-looking the driver.  Some of the drivers look positively ancient.

Look in the yards. There they are, puttering away. Or take some of these comments. “Building a bonfire” is a popular activity where I live. Whenever I get a whiff of air pollution I take a stroll to see where it is coming from and it is always some old geezer. In the evenings you can see them stretching their old bones, ambling along the sidewalks, walking the dog, collecting poop.

I think a lot of older folks have taken the opportunity to cash out of their positions in society, and like the fellow said, “Bunker up”.

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 04:02pm

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    Doug

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    Where have all the old people gone?

Well, I’ll reveal our (My wife and I) lifestyle to a degree.  I’m 74 and my wife is 67.  We are both pretty healthy.  I have my own little fitness center at home and my wife goes to tai chi and yoga classes at the local Y.  My wife has a one or two (depending on season) day a week job at the local library.  She calls it her pretend job.

We take part in a discussion group that focuses on foreign affairs that usually meets every two weeks over the winter.  Ages range from about 40 to 80s.  This past winter was mostly on zoom, but our last meeting was in person with a nice dinner.  We are having another meeting and cookout in a couple weeks on a different subject we are interested in.

My wife belongs to a church with a small mostly advanced age congregation.  She is pretty much the mainstay of the church.

We are part of another group of people, the youngest of which is my wife, ranging in age up to their 80s who meet maybe half a dozen times a year for birthday and holiday dinners.  All of us are quite active in various activities.  Two of us are wine makers so we use the dinners to share and compare our products.

We get together with our kids, their SOs and their SOs’ families regularly.  Our son, his gf and her family live within several blocks so we see each other often.  Our daughter lives five hours away so we see her less often, but still regularly.  None of the aforementioned people have the slightest desire to move south to avoid snow or NY taxes.

I recently put in horseshoe pits for fun.  We had a combination workshop/storage/recreation building and patio put in last year and are enjoying cookouts with friends and family regularly.  My son and I are beginning to do some wood working projects in the shop.

So far we haven’t eaten at a restaurant since the pandemic, even though we are all fully vaccinated.  Sprinkled among our social groups are some pretty good cooks.  Its more fun to eat with others in our homes.

Oh yeh, we also do quite a bit of gardening and nature walking when the urge strikes us.  We walk our dog at a neighboring cemetery and golf course daily.  We have struck up some casual friendships there as well.

We are looking forward to doing some traveling this summer.

In short, life is pretty good.

Doug

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 05:00pm

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    Oliveoilguy

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    Where have all the old people gone?

I’m 69 and still not old. Going to see my parents (93 years old) in Cumming Georgia. They found an independent living home that protected them through Covid. Opposite of what we saw in New York.  They are happily enjoying their freedoms. They got vaxed and I am glad they did, but I will avoid it till the trial is complete and there is objective science again. Guess that means I won’t get vaxed.
A lady who goes to my church got her vax and also had a stroke. It’s hard to prove causation, but it sure looks suspicious.
Another older guy is experiencing tachycardia. Was healthy till he got vaxed.

  • Tue, Jun 22, 2021 - 05:38pm

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    Mike from Jersey

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    Reply To: Where have all the old people gone?

Old guy here.

I am 70 and using the down time to get back in shape – losing weight and replacing it with as much muscle as this old frame can bear. I have also been taking online courses in immunology, genetics and virology so I can get a grasp on what is going on.

I’ll be traveling soon. I think I’ll head down to see some relatives in southern Mexico.

In late August I am heading to Maine to see family and do some kayaking up by Katahdin.

My lady is in China taking care of her elderly parents. We were there together when the pandemic broke out. I had to come back but I told her to stay for her folks. I’ll be heading back over to join her just as soon as China reopens to Americans, unless she can’t extend her visa, in which case she’ll have to come back here.

  • Thu, Jun 24, 2021 - 12:53pm

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    ao

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    thanks Jim

I just read your post. LOL, yep, I’m not keeping up with things like I used to but I greatly appreciate you passing along that information. I also appreciate all the great work you’ve done keeping all of us abreast of the science on this issue. Your insights and discoveries are always valuable and I love your passion. Thank you my friend!

I had to chuckle at your choice of wheels and I’ll tell you why in a PM (hint: great minds think alike, lol). Nice car! How’d you find one with only 5K miles? That’s quite a find!

How do you like your Leaf? I’ve long considered an EV but range anxiety, finding charging stations in our remote part of the world, battery degradation, and the adverse effects of extreme cold weather on battery performance (including when considering battery draw down for very necessary heating and defrosting) have kept me from pulling the trigger.

My present winter car is a rusty 2005 Subaru Impreza RS with over 105K miles and manual transmission decked out with Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2s, arguably the best winter tire money can buy. It’s fantastic on the snow and ice. My present summer car is a 2005 Toyota Corolla with 45K miles that had some minor body damage that I bought from my mom when she could no longer drive. It’s very reliable, very economical, and has seats designed by Robin McKenzie (a world renowned physical therapist who specialized in spinal pain) that feel good on my back. It’s good for long summer trips but just isn’t that good in the snow and ice. interestingly, with the body damage fixed and the increasing prices of used cars, its book value has tripled. But I’m going to be giving it to my daughter with the purchase of the new car and she will sell their even older high mileage Camry and give me the money from that sale.

Thanks again for reaching out and for all your good work!

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