When Central Banks Rule the World Part – Joan Veon

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    When Central Banks Rule the World Part – Joan Veon

If you are looking to discover the real world, you can’t go wrong with Joan Veon and this great series of videos.  She’s not a natural communicator like Chris Martenson but she will compliment and grow your new awareness.  

One quick disclaimer – a mental fast forward may be welcome when you come to the last video and her conclusions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEJdeWvGIZU&feature=related

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    Re: When Central Banks Rule the World Part – Joan Veon

As long as we abhor the only solution powerful enough to save us, more than we abhor the problem itself, we will have nothing but bitterness . . . That is why most of the efforts on this site, and elsewhere, toward awakening the populace, lead to anger and despair, not freedom . . . The evil is rubbed in the people’s faces, but then they are steered away from the solution. 

Joan Veon has put the puzzle together well . . . You embrace the pieces, but not the picture . . . .

 

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Hello C1oudfire,

I agree she does a fine job presenting the reality of what the banking system really is all about.  I’ve always been interested in history but never thought I would live through the decline of civilization at the hands of an oppressive and small group of aristocrats and moneyed elites.

I wondered if she would offer and solutions for example, End the Fed, break the international banking cartel or throw the bums outta Washington.  What a surprise when she suggests we pray to God.

In my mind, that may be appropriate for religious believers but surely there should be more?  Maybe I am missing the big picture – do you think only a higher power can wrest us from a future of slavery under a feudal system?  She seems very well researched and on the mark – is she saying that there is no hope other than divine intervention?

I have been getting a creeping feeling that the battle has been lost.  If so, it is incredible that civilization was conquered while looking the other way and more tragically, we are paying for and working towards our own enslavement.  I agree there is a moral issue, or “lack of” more accurately.  We no longer see the difference between right and wrong.  As a people, we seem to stand for nothing and accept anything.

I’d be interested to know what you’re thinking and this video is a good reference point.

Larry

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Hello C1oudfire,

I agree she does a fine job presenting the reality of what the banking system really is all about.  I’ve always been interested in history but never thought I would live through the decline of civilization at the hands of an oppressive and small group of aristocrats and moneyed elites.

I wondered if she would offer and solutions for example, End the Fed, break the international banking cartel or throw the bums outta Washington.  What a surprise when she suggests we pray to God.

In my mind, that may be appropriate for religious believers but surely there should be more?  Maybe I am missing the big picture – do you think only a higher power can wrest us from a future of slavery under a feudal system?  She seems very well researched and on the mark – is she saying that there is no hope other than divine intervention?

I have been getting a creeping feeling that the battle has been lost.  If so, it is incredible that civilization was conquered while looking the other way and more tragically, we are paying for and working towards our own enslavement.  I agree there is a moral issue, or “lack of” more accurately.  We no longer see the difference between right and wrong.  As a people, we seem to stand for nothing and accept anything.

I’d be interested to know what you’re thinking and this video is a good reference point.

Larry

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Hi, Good Buddy;

You know, as well as I do, that the specific discussion of religion is forbidden on CM . . . . If we are, indeed, working for the same cause, why cross the line into that arena? 

 

 

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    Re: When Central Banks Rule the World Part – Joan Veon

C1oudfire wrote:

You know, as well as I do, that the specific discussion of religion is forbidden on CM . . . . If we are, indeed, working for the same cause, why cross the line into that arena?

Sorry if I put you on the spot – I withdraw my questions and will instead offer some observations that puzzle me:

  1. Joan Veon has a great background and she has thoroughly researched and documented much of the international banking scheme.  Almost all facts, very little “speculation.”  Then when I came to the end, the praying thing really made me wonder.  If she is correct and the last barriers in front of the international bankers are being demolished – we are quickly running out of time, or perhaps she is suggesting we are already out of time.  “Hunker down and pray” is a good plan B, but my impression is that we must do more – we haven’t lost yet – or have we?
  2. The founding fathers were very unique in their approach to government in stating that we have “inalienable rights” provided by our creator.  These rights were not given to us by our government, instead the government’s job was to protect these rights.  Other nations accepted that their rights were “grants” from the monarch.  We are surely moving away from supreme rights from a higher, non-earthly power to a society in which our rights are dictated by government.
  3. I’m an ambivalent agnostic but I think we have become an immoral lot, at least as a society.  Besides what I said in the above bullet; there is other evidence of our moral decay.  For example, we pre-emptively attacked Iraq and to date, we have killed well over a million Iraqi’s over bogus claims that they had WMDs.  They didn’t, Hans Blix was right…woops.  Any moral people would have been outraged and ashamed that so many innocent people were killed by a president who was wrong or lying.  There were no tribunals, no one was fired, no impeachment – collectively, we seemed to rationalize – they have democracy now, so it’s all ok.
  4. Is religion a cure or cause?  This is a rhetorical question – so please don’t anyone answer it).  Oviously, religion is practiced on a personal basis by individuals who interpret things as they will.  Some may use religion as a solid base for morality and spirituality while others may use it to justify immorality.  So, I guess I’m saying that religion should not be blamed for the moral decay but in the same sense, it cannot be given much credit either.  When she hit the religious part  – I wanted to say:

    “We must separate religion from government but government must recognize that our rights are not theirs to give or take, they are from our creator (could be God, nature, Buddha, etc).  We shouldn’t make things more complicated, this is a very clear tenet in the architecture of our constitutional republic.”

Sorry if I got sidetracked, Joan Veon’s presentation is excellent.  I hope others view the videos. I regret that I said “One quick disclaimer – a mental fast forward may be welcome when you come to the last video and her conclusions.”  That was wrong and it shouldn’t have been said.

Larry

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    Re: When Central Banks Rule the World Part – Joan Veon

Larry, thanks for introducing me to Joan Veon and her videos.  I’ve gotten through the 1st one, and look forward to checking out others. 

I agree that the information (opinions?  beliefs?) that she presents are complementary to the information and awareness we get here.  For me, they may fill a conceptual gap that I knew existed for me, and have had some working hypotheses on, but which  I really didn’t have a solid conceptual framework for.  I won’t know til I check out her other videos, but she may help me start building that framework..

Thanks for sharing!

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She puts the specifics together better than any others out there talking about the new global system being orchestrated because she goes into the facts ad nauseum.  All the boring details, summits, economic meetings, etc.  The trajectory is clear.  You simply can’t watch these videos and continue to claim that only paranoid freaks would imagine a new world order is being created. 

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    Re: When Central Banks Rule the World Part – Joan Veon

Ok, I’ve made it through 7.  I don’t think I feel so good…

I think I’m having another Crash-Course-like experience.  You know, one of those times where you learn new concepts/ideas so revelationary to your view of the world, that it sets you back on your heels.  Talk about having your eyes opened to an alternative view of reality! 

You can only take so much of that in one sitting, though!

 

 

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    Re: When Central Banks Rule the World Part – Joan Veon

Hi pinecarr – I know what you mean.  She does a fabulous job in tying many things together, it feels like you seeing a big picture of the real world.  

The problem is darned complicated but the solution is very straight forward.  If we end the fed, we sever the parasite no matter how big it is. Joan reminds us that this war; bankers and monarchs versus humanity, has been raging on for hundreds of years. We have always held the power to end the fed’s contract and to take back control of our own currency and economy – we should do it soon.

Larry

 

 

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    Re: When Central Banks Rule the World Part – Joan Veon

Hey Larry!

Great to see you down here in the basement – I came down looking for a bottle of wine and imagine my surprise…..

You wrote:

I have been getting a creeping feeling that the battle has been lost.  If so, it is incredible that civilization was conquered while looking the other way and more tragically, we are paying for and working towards our own enslavement.  I agree there is a moral issue, or “lack of” more accurately.  We no longer see the difference between right and wrong.  As a people, we seem to stand for nothing and accept anything.

Somewhere, a few months ago, I read an interesting article about the critical mass required to change human consciousness, and I’m guessing it was around 41% (will search for it). The article gave the example of the people of the world believing the earth was flat, until this magic percentage number rolled over and changed the belief system of everyone.

Where I’m going here, is the hope to offer a little encouragement. Often, I get so tired with this blanket apathy and wonder if its the fluoride in the water, the aluminum and barium in the chemtrails, the massive amounts of prozac and other meds that so many are popping, but then all of a sudden a new sheeple awakes, and these negatives clear away and hope is renewed. I think it is very much, one sheeple at a time, and you are doing a great job! Baaaaleive me!

Thanks for the video links – they are new to me and will be passed onwards.

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