What’s so wrong with Keynes and Fiat, anyway?

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  • Sun, Feb 28, 2010 - 08:52am

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I really like the exchange of opinions! Good job to all and especially Chris!  Thanks.

 

  • Sun, Feb 28, 2010 - 11:11am

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FWIW…

1) I agree emphatically with AO and CCPETERSMD: You cannot “beat” him, period. It’s his game and he gets to grade you however he wants, regardless of actual merits of your work. In any sort of competitive interaction, he wins and you loose, period.

2) There are zero subjects taught in University that cannot be learned from books, much more cheaply. There are myriad subjects not taught in University at all, but which can be learned from books, if you have the discipline. Thus IMHO, Universities serve only two useful purposes:

   a)   They are a great environment for young adults to “grow up”, and the parties are great. Universities are the easiest place to get laid, period.

   b)   If you are in a field where the degree matters, you are stuck playing their stupid game and spending several hundred thousand dollars to (maybe) learn information you could have learned just as easily on your own at a public library.

My advice to young people: Avoid careers such as medicine where (b) is relevant, and if you go to college at all, pick a good party school and don’t take the idea of learning anything useful there too seriously. Then separately learn to educate yourself by reading. That’s what’s worked for me, anyway.

All the best,

Erik

 

  • Sun, Feb 28, 2010 - 01:03pm

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[quote=ErikTownsend]

FWIW…

1) I agree emphatically with AO and CCPETERSMD: You cannot “beat” him, period. It’s his game and he gets to grade you however he wants, regardless of actual merits of your work. In any sort of competitive interaction, he wins and you loose, period.

2) There are zero subjects taught in University that cannot be learned from books, much more cheaply. There are myriad subjects not taught in University at all, but which can be learned from books, if you have the discipline. Thus IMHO, Universities serve only two useful purposes:

   a)   They are a great environment for young adults to “grow up”, and the parties are great. Universities are the easiest place to get laid, period.

   b)   If you are in a field where the degree matters, you are stuck playing their stupid game and spending several hundred thousand dollars to (maybe) learn information you could have learned just as easily on your own at a public library.

My advice to young people: Avoid careers such as medicine where (b) is relevant, and if you go to college at all, pick a good party school and don’t take the idea of learning anything useful there too seriously. Then separately learn to educate yourself by reading. That’s what’s worked for me, anyway.

All the best,

Erik

 

[/quote]I know this is Aaron’s thread, but Erik – yah made my weekend. 

  • Sun, Feb 28, 2010 - 01:27pm

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[quote=ErikTownsend]

FWIW…

1) I agree emphatically with AO and CCPETERSMD: You cannot “beat” him, period. It’s his game and he gets to grade you however he wants, regardless of actual merits of your work. In any sort of competitive interaction, he wins and you loose, period.

2) There are zero subjects taught in University that cannot be learned from books, much more cheaply. There are myriad subjects not taught in University at all, but which can be learned from books, if you have the discipline. Thus IMHO, Universities serve only two useful purposes:

   a)   They are a great environment for young adults to “grow up”, and the parties are great. Universities are the easiest place to get laid, period.

   b)   If you are in a field where the degree matters, you are stuck playing their stupid game and spending several hundred thousand dollars to (maybe) learn information you could have learned just as easily on your own at a public library.

My advice to young people: Avoid careers such as medicine where (b) is relevant, and if you go to college at all, pick a good party school and don’t take the idea of learning anything useful there too seriously. Then separately learn to educate yourself by reading. That’s what’s worked for me, anyway.

All the best,

Erik[/quote]

I’m going to defend Universities….

1. Never stay in a course with a Professor you don’t like or disagree with.  Drop out and take the same or another course for the same credits some other time.  And if the Professor is really awful you can put together a petition.  In this case, protest the Professor’s bias towards Keynes and turn the issue over to a public forum — like the college newspaper.

2. University libraries are much more extensive than your local public library and you are surrounded by people who can help you out.  You can seek out the good Professors and generally they will help you. 

I found it very difficult to work and study after hours at the public library.  I learned at the University because I worked every other semester allowing me to concentrate on studying while on campus.  And Universities are connected to jobs and internships allowing you to try out different jobs, which is useful when you still aren’t sure what you want to do.

Agree though that 2a is true generally …

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2. University libraries are much more extensive than your local public library and you are surrounded by people who can help you out.  You can seek out the good Professors and generally they will help you. 

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I emphatically agree. And what’s more, the chicks in University libraries are much better looking than the ones in public libraries.

But you don’t have to pay the tuition to hang out at the University library (in the case of most open-campus universities), and if you know how to network, you can get invited to the college parties by hanging out at the library and educating yourself. Bottom line, there is no need to pay tuition unless you’ve chosen a field where the degree is essential, and the worthwhile parts of college (good libraries and getting laid) are free to anyone who chooses to wander onto campus and check out the library.

-Erik (who spent most of high school at MIT, has no degrees and has never been enrolled in a degree program, and who retired at 33)

 

  • Sun, Feb 28, 2010 - 07:56pm

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Erik, funny comments! But, as a plug for medicine, there is not only the undergraduate education, there is also medical school, internship and residency to consider. Which amounts to lots of additional time to have romantic entanglements! Oh, and yes, you do learn how to help others, too.

  • Sun, Feb 28, 2010 - 09:13pm

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can you just show him this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk

and this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XbG6aIUlog

 

  • Sun, Feb 28, 2010 - 09:23pm

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I’m good to hook on romantic entanglements…
Mostly interested in building useful skills and knowledge that allows me to help others and provide useful services for my community.

This thread has superceded my expections in every possible way.
The facts, humor and great overall outlook is what makes this site unique.

And Davos, next time go ahead and tell us what you really think =D

I’m going to discuss the faulty logic with the other students in my class and cut the instructor out of the loop entirely.
That way I can reach people who still might be open minded and aware.

Cheers,

Aaron

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[quote=Aaron Moyer]

And Davos, next time go ahead and tell us what you really think =D

[/quote]I never hold back. Tact =brick coming through a window. Mincing words is for moronic politicians. Nothing will ever change if we don’t first admit we have problems.

  • Sun, Feb 28, 2010 - 09:59pm

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I love it.
I was grinnin’ ear to ear reading that post because it directly reflected how I felt with information reinforcing it.
 
That and I don’t think you could possible be more correct.
Who’s up for another round of bailouts?!
And actually… how many are we up to now?

Cheers?

Aaron 

 

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