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  • Sun, May 03, 2009 - 03:09pm

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We (as in our Transition Town movement) ran the Crash Course in Cooran last weekend.  

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DTM, youdaman.  Keep us posted on how your organizing goes.  I’m quite interested as this is something I’m working on in my community, although I’m about 8-1/2 steps behind where you are.  

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  • Sun, May 03, 2009 - 03:24pm

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 Works for me, Sager, even before the coffee. Thanks.

And I tend to agree, but have had this question about the notion of free time. To me, there will be less free time, but many many people seem to feel there will be more free time. Why do they think this? Life is about how you spend time, not how you spend money. I have a lot of choice now. But in the post oil world, won’t I be breaking butt just to eat and stay warm and have some oil and vinegar on my salad? How is that free time?

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  • Sun, May 03, 2009 - 03:37pm

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here is a link to the discourses of meher baba. the very first discourse is called the new humanity. it is an absolutely beautiful description of what we will be experiencing. this is spirituality not a religion and it is an important distinction.

http://ambppct.org/meherbaba/Book_Files/7th_Part_1.pdf

if you wish to read any further you can go to http://www.avatarmeherbaba.org.

there will ba a period of destruction and out of that will emerge the new humanity.

personally i was hoping to avoid the destruction part and just come back for the new humanity part……….oh well.

as far as a positive view of the future i see a wearing away of greed and self interest a developing sense of "we are all in this together"

i see decisions being made with 7 generations in mind ie. science looking at the long term effects of what is produced and how it is used.

and the communication of love from heart to heart.

  • Sun, May 03, 2009 - 05:53pm

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I guess my positive vision boils down to authenticity —

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Dude I’m so with you, I have those types of conversations all the time, at work at home while posting on cm.com or watching a movie.

I’d so much prefer, and there’s no time like the present to start, to say "hey dude, don’t want to talk right now" and hang up. Although I do use the phone as a convenience device anyway, if it’s not convenient I don’t answer, if its important someone will leave a message.

Here’s a good example of what is not authenticity, buying a Porsche Boxster (because it’s a Porsche) and sinking $15,000 in upgrades and tuning to get the performance that matches a $30,000 Subaru STi. At this time I was trading my Sports-Coupe for an off road truck (because I need it for transporting myself to my new location, and hauling a 12×14 trailer).

Getting back to "natural stress" too, I mentioned in another thread this fact, why is it that having a meeting with a guy who spouts so much BS you’d like to punch him in the throat, but can’t, effects me more than the 3-4 near death experiences I’ve had (motorcycle accidents etc.) after those I checked extremities, poked and prodded my abdomen looked at my bumps and bruises, and breathed a sigh of relief, then felt alive. In the prior case it sits on me like a lead weight for at least the rest of the day, and I keep revisiting it. 

Simpilicity too, there’s nothing more fun than flying a kite on a windy day, or roasting marshmallows on a stick over a camp fire on a cold night.

[quote=joe2baba]here is a link to the discourses of meher baba. the very first discourse is called the new humanity. it is an absolutely beautiful description of what we will be experiencing. this is spirituality not a religion and it is an important distinction.[/quote]

I like the distinction you draw, I’ll check out those links. I do think that spirituality will play a large part in the things I’m looking forward to as well. I’m spiritual myself, but have lost my connection (could it be stress, and meaningless junk) with the world around me, I do get flashes every now and again, looking at the perfect imperfections of a spider spinning its web, or visiting some of my special places, and meditating.

Anyway here’s to the future post crash may we all live to see it, and all make our dreams come true.

 

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So let this be the definitive thread where we all share our positive visions of the future.  Let’s use this thread to create what Tom Atlee calls an “alternative story field”.  Let’s begin to formulate new myths and stories about what a desirable sustainable world might look like.  How might your community, your work, your relationships with others, your connection to food and to the land, and your way of being in the world change in positive ways as a result of the challenges we’re facing?

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I found this somewhere past page 20.  Trouble is, the title of this thread does not include definitive thread, which could have helped it remain in the first few pages — and lively.  Can that be remedied?

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The value of time.

Its all you really have and you can’t buy anymore of it.

The other night the kids were in our bedroom and we were all just laying around and chatting about our day. I’d like to spend most of my time doing that.

  • Wed, Feb 10, 2010 - 02:29pm

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While I’m not sure I’m far enough along to have an overall positive vision of the future, I appreciate reading this topic very much.  I’m still stuck deep in the fear stage, I think…

However, I will say that surprising bursts of happiness have come out of the changes I’ve started making in my life in response to this fear.  For example, as part of my push to increase my self-sufficiency, I bought a hand-powered grain mill and started learning about the different kinds of wheat, etc.  I was feeling a little strange about it, worried that my wife and kids would think that I had really gone into the deep end.  To my surprise, they all enjoy the home-made bread we’ve made, but even better my younger son just loves to do the grinding.  In fact, he insists on doing it himself and then later proclaims proudly as we eat the fresh bread, “I made this bread!”  (And I kind of feel like Tom Sawyer and his white-washed fence when I say “Oh, okay, I guess you can do do the grinding, as long as you clean your room up first.”)

Anyway, I was excited to see how proud he was of it.  How invested he was in the product of his own sweat.  There is something magic there that we as a family hadn’t tasted (pun intended) before.  I hope our future will have more of that…

  • Wed, Feb 10, 2010 - 02:35pm

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I HOPE there will be a universal acknowledgment of how our society has our problems BUILT in it, and that passing new laws or enforcing old ones will never ever solve our social problems.  

“You shall not steal”  this kind of behavior(stealing) is built into the system, Writing such ridiculous laws will not do anything.  Laws are just acknowledgment of the flaws in society and they will not work when we have built in corruption.  Only way to solve a so called “problem” is to design society without those social problems.  So design out the flaws is the point. 

SO I hope society eventually will wake up to the notion that Politics and Government will have to go, and we move toward a intelligent decentralized society as opposed to our centralized power structure, which we reinforce every 2 and 4 years. 

Cool ~joe

 

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StrangeFoliage – I have had a similar experience with my family.  Last summer, we built a pretty big garden.  In August, we had a BBQ and maybe 6 kids under 10 were there.  I cant remember any event or game ever getting kids more excited than they were picking our veggies and then eating them.  They were amazed, proud to pick them and make dinner with them.  It was very very cool.

Nothing…nothing can compete with nature when it comes to kids happiness…..I hope for a move back toward knowing nature where we grow more of our own food, play in openspace away from TV, and connect and feel healthier as a result.

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Whole places AND whole people as mutually reinforcing, local systems.  Absence of overextended human abilities and wants.

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