What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

Login or register to post comments Last Post 0 reads   176 posts
Viewing 10 posts - 161 through 170 (of 176 total)
  • Fri, Oct 01, 2021 - 08:03pm

    #161
    FooBarr

    FooBarr

    Status Bronze Member (Offline)

    Joined: Oct 21 2010

    Posts: 128

    count placeholder2

    Does anyone have a summary of this thread so far?

Howdy, looking for an easy read of this awesome thread.   Preferably something that jives with FLCCC protocols (which I got printed out) and maybe highlights additional items like NAC, and/or different dosages.

Background:  Past couple of weeks I’ve been around some 20-yr-old students who have been in and out of class with rona.  I’m thinking my weekly low-dose IVM prophylaxis did not muster full prevention as I got a slight cough and scratchy throat and body aches.

thanks

  • Sat, Oct 02, 2021 - 12:24pm   (Reply to #161)

    #162

    Jim H

    Status Bronze Member (Offline)

    Joined: Jun 08 2009

    Posts: 1598

    count placeholder4

    Hello Foobar….

You are not the first asking for a summary.. I will work on that.

I will say this;  It takes a cocktail.  Nobody is saying IVM alone is sufficient.  In fact, I don’t take it as ongoing prophylaxis anymore.. I take a huge cocktail of non-prescription stuff, and I safe the IVM (and the Zithromax) for in case of symptoms.

Here’s a super nutshell summary of what I do – starting with the FLCCC prophylaxis protocol;

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

1)  I do more D3.  I believe that the FLCCC dosing is too light.  Consider this statement from the statement by doctors and scientists supporting Vitamin D sufficiency in the fight against Covid-19;

It has been shown that 3875 IU (97mcg) daily is required for 97.5% of people to reach 20ng/ml, and 6200 IU (155mcg) for 30ng/ml,4 intakes far above all national guidelines.

source:  https://vitamindforall.org/letter.html

Now you see why I take 10,000 IU daily.  I have not had myself tested.. that’s the only way to know for sure.. but we should all be targeting >/= 50ng/ml.  Why?  This paper tells you why right in the title;

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.22.21263977v1

COVID-19 mortality risk correlates inversely with vitamin D3 status, and a mortality rate close to zero could theoretically be achieved at 50 ng/ml 25(OH)D3: Results of a systematic review and meta-analysis

So that’s my first point… most people know about vitamin D in general, but I think most are still not taking enough.

Beyond the D3, I take more quercetin.. 500 mg daily.. and I take at least part of that as an expensive, high bioavailability form.  In my case I use the quercetin phytosome by Thorne;  https://www.thorne.com/products/dp/quercetin-phytosome

Of course the quercetin pairs with the Zinc.. in this case quercetin plays the same role as hydroxychloroquine.. as a Zinc ionophore.

So then the question becomes, what else can one take beyond and above the FLCCC items?

Many of us have taken to a daily dose of flush Niacin.. aka nicotinic acid.  This has numerous health benefits, including improvement of good vs bad cholesterol balance.  There is anecdotal evidence that it helps with Covid, especially when paired with melatonin.  Some people don’t like the flush, but it can become an acquired taste of sorts.  Start with 500 mg and work your way up to 1 gram.  I do 1 gram daily in the morning.. others do it evening.  Some do it twice daily.  Mind the formulation.. MOST of the niacin you will find on store shelves is NOT flush niacin.. rather it will be NO FLUSH, or ER (extended release) or something.  If you try this, it needs to be straight, flush niacin.

Another supplement that has been discussed in this thread is NAC.  Interesting the FDA started cracking down on NAC earlier this year, which made us even more interested in it : )      I take 500 mg daily.. it is a glutathione precursor.

I take a curcumin supplement daily.  I think it deserves a place in any cocktail.  This may sound like a stretch, but there is actually sound evidence for it’s efficacy – you can see the studies summarized here;

https://c19curcumin.com/

The supplement that is least discussed but that I consider a secret weapon is mushrooms.  Many types of mushrooms have proven anti-viral properties.  One of the first supplements I got myself in early 2020 was in fact Chaga mushroom (powder) from a small company that harvests from the woods of Northern MI.  One can make tea from Chaga powder.  There was anecdotal evidence coming out of Wuhan, via Clif High, that the patients of a herbalist/doctor there who were taking Chaga appeared to be protected from the virus.. while those who were not taking a formulation with Chaga, were not.

There are posts back in this thread discussing the anti-viral evidence.  There is one very powerful anecdotal story of a medical doctor who appears to have cured himself of Hep-C by taking a bottle of Host Defense Agarikon capsules over the period of a month or two.  I therefore mix and match a few of the various Host Defense capsules daily;

Turkey Tail, Agarikon, Stamet’s7, Mycommunity.

These are not cheap.. but again, I consider these a true secret weapon bolstering my anti-viral, immune supporting cocktail.  Website here;

https://hostdefense.com/

I also take Magnesium (400 mg as glycinate) and Selenium daily.

Best regards, Jim H

 

 

  • Sat, Oct 02, 2021 - 02:36pm

    #163
    jerryr

    jerryr

    Status Silver Member (Offline)

    Joined: Oct 31 2008

    Posts: 188

    count placeholder5

    Bifidobacterium

I saw this great Peter McCullough video linked here on another thread.





Starting at 35:15 he talks about why some people never get Covid, even when they’re heavily exposed. He says the most common theory is that they have cross-immunity from cold coronaviruses. But, he favors a theory by Sabine Hazan, who says that they’re immune because of their intestinal microbiome composition.

I traced this down to a paper: Hazan et al, “The missing microbes: Bifidobacterium and Faecalibacterium depletion and loss of microbiome diversity as potential susceptibility markers for SARS-CoV-2 infection and severity”. The abstract states that exposed individuals who don’t catch the virus have a higher abundance of bifidobacterium and faecalibacterium, as well as greater bacterial diversity in general. It concludes that the pattern “may be amenable to pre-, intra-, or post infection intervention.”

I took a look at the probiotic supplement I’ve been taking, and bifobacterium is a prominent ingredient. Some of these products claim to be micro-encapsulated to prevent destruction of the bacteria by stomach acid; mine doesn’t.  Shopping for faecalibacterium supplements turned up zilch on Duck Duck Go.

Dr. Hazan is affiliated with progenabiome.com, which offers gut biome testing  and fecal microbial transplant (FMT) services. A linked article in VCReporter says “As a ‘yuk factor’, few topics can compete with poop” and that “FMT has failed to gain acceptance in  the US due to public aversion.” I hope that pills can do the job!

  • Sat, Oct 02, 2021 - 03:03pm

    #164
    debu

    debu

    Status Bronze Member (Offline)

    Joined: Aug 16 2009

    Posts: 117

    count placeholder2

    What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

Graffiti seen on a wall in Kitchener last week:

chaga  reishi  anti-viral!

Had to laugh!

  • Sat, Oct 02, 2021 - 03:12pm

    #165
    nordicjack

    nordicjack

    Status Platinum Member (Offline)

    Joined: Feb 03 2020

    Posts: 1470

    count placeholder0

    What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

Looking for “vaccine” prophylactic.    Anyone know source for method of action for antiviral action in Ivermectin or other anti-parisitics?

  • Sun, Oct 10, 2021 - 08:05am

    #166
    randomuser123

    randomuser123

    Status Member (Offline)

    Joined: Oct 10 2021

    Posts: 4

    count placeholder2

    What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

Chlorine dioxide

 

Check out these
peer reviewed studies about the effects of  chlorine dioxide for covid.

https://www.hilarispublisher.com/open-access/determination-of-the-effectiveness-of-chlorine-dioxide-in-the-treatment-of-covid-19.pdf

https://journals.indexcopernicus.com/search/article?articleId=3221919

Video of the mayor of the city of san jose de los chiquitos in bolivia on  the effects of chlorine dioxide on covid:

 

 

 

  • Mon, Oct 11, 2021 - 10:51am

    #167
    Kat43

    Kat43

    Status Gold Member (Offline)

    Joined: Feb 10 2020

    Posts: 678

    count placeholder2

    Don’t forget pill organizers!

I thought I was well organized should I fall ill because I have my stash and a list of exactly what I will take.  But I realized it is a rather long list (because I have been thinking about this for a while) for which I need a set of three extra large pill organizers.  And I should chart out ahead of time exactly how I will fill each of them to spread what I can more evenly through the course of the day.  If I feel something coming on I’ll load up the organizers for the week ahead.  Because I’m pretty sure if I’m feeling really crappy I won’t want to be staring down a counter’s worth of bottles and wondering if I can piece together what I should take at that moment when I would much prefer to be back in bed.

  • Tue, Oct 12, 2021 - 08:30am

    #168
    jje100010001

    jje100010001

    Status Member (Offline)

    Joined: Oct 12 2021

    Posts: 2

    count placeholder0

    Reply To: What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

Hey all, thanks for the awesome resources. Been stocking up on some of them so far, building up my warchest of prophylactics in case that day arrives.

I have a question though- in the case of vaccination with a vaccine with an adenovirus delivery system (i.e. J&J, AZ), is it possible to limit the amount of damage incurred by taking antivirals beforehand and afterwards?

  • Tue, Oct 12, 2021 - 01:47pm

    #169
    hotsauce

    hotsauce

    Status Silver Member (Offline)

    Joined: Dec 17 2020

    Posts: 177

    count placeholder1

    What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

There is a talk by Adam Gaertner with a theoretical method for reducing vaccine damage. Someone here also mentioned taurine.

None of these things have been properly studied (obviously). The best way to protect yourself from the harmful effects of a vaccine is to not have it injected into your body.

  • Wed, Oct 13, 2021 - 05:08pm

    #170

    Jim H

    Status Bronze Member (Offline)

    Joined: Jun 08 2009

    Posts: 1598

    count placeholder2

    Melatonin… could it really be this simple?

Viewing 10 posts - 161 through 170 (of 176 total)

Login or Register to post comments