What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

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  • Wed, Sep 08, 2021 - 04:26pm

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    Jim H

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    That looks like good stuff Acorn! Re: Highly bioavailable curcumin

I found this article that cites some data;

https://peoplebeatingcancer.org/the-most-bioavailable-curcumin-formulas/

According to Consumerlab.com:

“Novasol has the highest bioavailability (185 x compared to unforumulated CU), followed by Curcuwin (136 x), Longvida (100 x), Meriva (48 x), BCM-95 (27 x), Curcumin C3 Complex + Bioperene (20 x), and then Theracumin (16 x).”

So at least based on this reference the Solgar branded curcumin you have makes use of the Novasol-processed curcumin, based on the 185x.

As for the two types of Qunol.. I didn’t realize that this was the case until I purchased two big bottles of the “enhanced” version myself from Costco.  Thanks to the info. Thatchmo provided we can see that Qunol is loading more of the enhanced in each pill as curcumin and less so (likely the coating takes up a lot of the volume) in the more highly available form.  I have not found any head-to-head testing, so for now I will take what I have.. if I had a bottle of each.. I would probably take one of each per day.  I take two Qunol enhanced per day now.

As per Kat’s suggestion, I did recently buy a bottle of (just) bromelain and I take one of those along with the Qunol enhanced.

BTW, It is a real pleasure to have nuanced discussion happening on this thread.  We are many steps ahead in our 4D chess game against Covid-19 vs the average sheeple.  I have seen other folks on PP.com state that they don’t take IVM as part of their regular prophylaxis, and I am there as well.  I think that the stack I am taking is HIGHLY protective and I will engage the IVM as needed at first signs of anything anomalous.

  • Thu, Sep 09, 2021 - 12:48pm

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    Kat43

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    Have we discussed serine protease enzymes?

In particular serrapeptidase?  I have added Enzymedica’s SerraGold to what I will take if symptoms arise.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8265778/

 

  • Thu, Sep 09, 2021 - 01:31pm   (Reply to #142)

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    Are these enzymes acting as protease inhibitors Kat?

Bromhexine is mentioned in the paper you refer to, but it’s an inhibitor.  I recall at least one doctor was using Bromhexine to good advantage as part of an early treatment protocol last year.

Here are the basics as I understand them;

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7189851/

Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 enters host cells via ligation of its spike protein (S glycoprotein) with host cell ACE2 receptor that is primed by TMPRSS2 protease. ACE2- and TMPRSS2-mediated cell entry can be blocked by experimental and established drugs. Virus replication and assembly can be inhibited by antiviral drugs targeting viral RNA-dependent RNA polymerase (RdRp) and main protease (3Clpro)….

….Infection of pneumocytes, macrophages and pulmonary mast cells requires viral S protein. This invasion process which involves attachment of S protein to the ACE2 receptor is facilitated by host cell derived serine protease TMPRSS2 [8]. Agents that inhibit TMPRSS2, such as camostat mesilate, may be useful in blocking viral host cell entry.

 

 

  • Thu, Sep 09, 2021 - 01:52pm   (Reply to #142)

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    What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

They are proteases, so they wouldn’t be protease inhibitors.

  • Thu, Sep 09, 2021 - 02:17pm

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    Is there any data, even anecdotal, on use of these enzymes in prophylaxis?

From the same paper you linked… we have talked about anti-histamines in general, and their benefit against Covid-19.  This sounds promising;

Additionally, SEPD has been showed to exert anti-inflammatory effects by inhibiting the release of serotonin and histamine. The anti-inflammatory activity of SEPD at the systemic and cellular level is suggestive of its potential in limiting cellular injury in different organs by inhibiting inflammation.

 

  • Thu, Sep 09, 2021 - 02:51pm   (Reply to #145)

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    What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

My only experience with SerraGold was vicariously through my late husband.  He had a ton of inflammatory conditions.  When he took SerraGold he would feel amazing for a few days and then the effect would wear off.  I took that to mean that his body was adjusting to it.  So my inclination is to reserve it for symptoms.

  • Thu, Sep 09, 2021 - 02:57pm

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    Winter Robinson

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    What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

This isn’t exactly what you are asking, but Beechtree Labs (CEO John McMichael) has a molecular resonance serum that can be used prophylactically but also beats the “snot” out of Covid.  While it was trialed in Salt Lake City for some reason it never gets the traction it deserves. Maybe because it is inexpensive to produce?

  • Thu, Sep 09, 2021 - 05:09pm

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    What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

Hi all,
I am a nutritional therapist and wrote this article back in March 2020. Much of what I wrote turned out ahead of the curve!

https://healconsultancy.com/covid19/

I have recently updated the references and added a few more interesting studies. The only thing I haven’t added is early course of antihistamines, e.g. cetirizine, which apparently can significantly reduce the risk of the body over-reacting to the infection debris i.e. cytokine storm. I’d like to see a few more studies on this before adding it but apparently it is being used in India with good success, and is low risk.

 

As always not medical advice, check with your Dr first.

  • Thu, Sep 09, 2021 - 10:26pm

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    Artemesia annua

new study showing efficacy of this plant in tea form, source Covid19Crusher. Note the ?now obligatory nod to vaccines in the text!

Artemisia annua hot-water extracts show potent activity in vitro against Covid-19 variants including delta

“Results suggest that oral consumption of A. annua hot-water extracts (tea infusions), could provide a cost-effective therapy to help stave off the rapid global spread of these variants, buying time for broader implementation of vaccines.”

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.08.459260v1

 

  • Fri, Sep 10, 2021 - 01:08pm

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    What is the ultimate prophylactic cocktail? A thread to collect evidence

Further to the discussion in last night’s webinar re Niacin, this very helpful article came in this morning from Dr. Mercola. It speaks to the many health benefits, as well as the potential for minimizing severity of any covid illness.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/09/10/niacin-and-melatonin-combination-support-metabolic-health.aspx?ui=a8fedde2e94af4fe15cc492213fe8beba36118c1bbc3877aecd15f1e1a214614&sd=20210726&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art2ReadMore&cid=20210910_HL2&mid=DM989218&rid=1260616914

 

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