What I am doing to prep…

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  • Mon, Mar 07, 2011 - 04:03am



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I might take pressure from the locals on my food production….theft out of the garden, theft from the chicken coop….as a reason to move.

Once the pressure gets to be too much, which means taking time to think about another line in the sand. When half the chickens are gone?

When the dog gets poisoned?

When the garden gets completely stripped bare in one night?

When the crowd is working it’s way downt he street is way too late. Ask Reginald Denny.


  • Mon, Mar 07, 2011 - 04:17am



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    Jager06 great thread

Wow what amazing info this thread has!  I will start by answering the most recent post (about what would make me want to leave my current location) and then go to sharing my prep work.

Last summer there were pretty ferocious wildfires in our area that forced many to be evacuated and ultimately lose homes.  Some sort of natural disaster of this type would be a major push out the door.  Another one would be massive rioting/looting or some sort of governmental confiscation program.  I do not live in the fear of such things continually, although as time passes I am coming to believe that anything is a possibility, especially the things I imagine are least possible.  I have small (younger than five) children and am extremely concerned about my ability to do anything but get into a car and head out.  I could carry them, with my husband, but then we could carry no gear.  There is the possibility of biking, but we have not really scoped that one out thoroughly.  So we have a pretty nicely set up van that will do fine.  It will have to.

Here are my current list of preparations:

-selling home that we have not lived in since I was pregnant with my first child (it has been an income-generating rental)

-purchased a modest amount of the shiny stuff with some excess cash

-gathered a moderately extensive stockpile of “short term” food stores in my pantry and basement.  Maybe 300-500lbs worth.  

-gathered what I consider to be a bare minimum of other supplies, extra bandaids, shampoo and the like.  this area could be improved.

-have my husband work on figuring out a generator solution for us 

-participated in the local Transition Town conference, which I plan to write a separate thread about.  I have mixed news to report.  Short story:  I would say a very small minority of folks held cm.com type views.  Still, it was a venue to openly discuss some related issues with respect to our larger community.  Also made some neat new connections, for example with a guy who is launching a community kitchen for larger-scale food processing.

-have decided to actively pursue connections with folks that are more like-minded to my husband and myself (unfortunately few and far-between) as opposed to forcing myself to feel “stuck” with those friends and neighbors who do not seem to agree with our assessments.  we have struggled with feeling weighed down by folks who cannot or will not see what we see.  call it harsh but this is serious stuff and I only have so much time and energy.

-thought about the idea of personal safety.  it’s something.  no answers yet, but the ideas are starting to shape.  It is overwhelming as a mother.

-worked through the confusion a lot of folks in our society have regarding a healthy and sustainable diet.  Especially when it comes to food preparation.  I did not grow up learning how to cook, and have had to teach myself how to do it.  Sounds like a nothing item, but it has really taken up a lot of my time and energy.  Now at least I hvae some confidence that I could teach myself in the future.

-training in my career as a midwife

Here is what I have left on my list (at this time, off the top of my head cuz my book is upstairs):

-self-defense training

-long-term food storage

-energy resilience

-learn to sew

-dental work (those dang mercury fillings)

Please help me with comments or fill in gaps!

  • Tue, Mar 08, 2011 - 08:09pm



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Midwife! What an awesome resource you are!

It sounds to me like you are doing all the right things, and with family unity. Great work, now keep at it!

You do sound a little shaky on the personal defense issues. I know that is a rather tall hurdle for a lot of folks. It does require thinking about the worst possible, most horrible situation you could find yourself in and deciding if you can live with the outcome. For me it is more about family defense than self defense. By that I do not mean I would not defend myself, but the fury would rise to uncontrollable proportions if someone were to touch my wife or children.

I am still in awe of the midwife skills. You are going to be an asset to whatever community you choose to create or join.

Congratulations on your progress thus far!


  • Thu, Mar 10, 2011 - 05:17am



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    Trigger Points

As a SHTF event unfolds, one’s options for response will diminish and even disappear altogether.  Pre-planning, or prepping will extend the viability of an option for a time,  but, all the pre-planning in the world will not keep an option open if things deteriorate beyond a certain point. Trigger Points are a device to help one recognize when that point may be in the offing.  They are the point of no return, which if passed, will remove an option which was previously available.  Trigger Points are an attempt to convert to hard data the mushy and confusing progression of events.

An example:  On a heavily overcast November day, you are hiking in remote woods.  This is a day hike similar to what you’ve done many times before, so even against your better judgment, you leave behind your survival kit.  Somewhere along the hike, you make a wrong turn and wander off on a tangent.  You realize your mistake and return to the original trail, but now you have lost a lot of time.  You are two hours from the car and it will be dark in an hour.  From experience you know that it will take a minimum of 45 minutes to throw together some kind of shelter suitable for the elements, and even then, you know spending the nite out is going to be a miserable thing.  Your other option is to try to walk out, using whatever nighttime navigational skills you might possess.  Your trigger point in this situation is temporal, about 45 minutes before nightfall.  That is when you must make your decision.  The further you proceed past that trigger point, the option of building a shelter becomes less of an option.  Eventually that option disappears completely, as it gets too dark to find the necessary materials.

The challenge is to enumerate your important options and try to identify the progression of events that will begin to take those options away from you.  Somewhere in that progression of events is your Trigger Point, an approximation of the conditions under which your option will begin to disappear.  The Trigger Point should be fairly specific, otherwise it is easy to rationalize events away and justify putting off the decision “just a little bit longer, to see what happens”.  Best if you write them down.


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