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  • Tue, Mar 01, 2011 - 09:22pm

    #11

    Jager06

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    Like minded people…

Earth,

Like minded people have to be created when someone as far along as yourself begins to reach out.

This is a process, and dropping the Crash Course in front of someone who is trying to keep track of the Kardashian girls will result in dismay and denial.

I suggest that you start converting your neighbors into a mutual support network by having a BBQ. Well maybe not just that, maybe setting up a Neighborhood watch will get things started.

I do not know your geographical circumstances with regards to population density and ability to monitor potential trouble makers near your neighbors homes. You may be able to use the neighborhood security as a means to start building the cooperative relationships that will lead to the type of community reliance we are all working towards.

Your invitation does not have to be neighborhood watch, it can be a sewing or quilting group, a friendly BBQ that is done regularly, an herbal remedies workshop that you coordinate, a barn raising….anything is the basis for breaking the ice. Follow up with regular events, whatever you choose, so that the most important thing can be sown, the basis for a relationship.

The basic idea is to do something with your neighbors, engage them, help them and be a good friend and a resource. There is no doubt that you are a great person to befriend and that you have a lot of attributes that will endear you to others. Once you have shown them that you care, that you are doing something for them without regard for reward and that you are not a nut job survivalist, then you can begin to draw their attention to the issues at hand. Help with problem solving by doing something together, be it a chicken coop or a charitable event.

Normal kindness and friendship will remove the barriers and the conversations will naturally turn towards things we regularly discuss here at CM.

Best wishes,

Jager06

  • Tue, Mar 01, 2011 - 09:37pm

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    SteveR

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    Life Portable

Maybe it’s normacy bias, but I can’t believe that things would get that bad, that quickly, without warning signs for people like us who have our ears tuned into the best sources of solid information like Dr. M.  It’s also hard to believe that it would get so bad, so quickly, that interstate travel would be shut down.

I should have mentioned that part of the gypsy plan is to always have a place set up nearby, stocked with food, water, etc. to get us through a month-long disruption, for example.  That place might be our current house, a friend’s house, or a place in another country.

To me, nimbleness and flexibility seem more important than being tied down in one spot , with all of our “security eggs” in one basket.

Take Cairo, for example.  If I had lived in Cairo when the first demonstrations started, I would have gotten the hell out of there – maybe to a small town in Egypt or perhaps in another country.  But in reality, if one is portable, why live in Cairo in the first place in these turbulent times?  Why not stay several steps ahead by not living in potential hot-spots (e.g. political instability, most food imported, religious conflict, etc.)?

I would be glad to debate this, because I’m more interested in having the best information rather than simply being “right.”  I don’t want to be the bicyclist who had every legal right to ride on the busy highway but got smashed regardless.  He may have been right, but now he’s dead.

  • Tue, Mar 01, 2011 - 09:39pm

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    SimonR4

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    Internet Operating after Gov. Shutdown

I was reading on another website that it is a good idea to record the IP address of each site you want to maintain contact with, if the internet is specifically shut of to normal civilian traffic.  The idea is that the likely way the “Internet Shut Down” would occur would affect the DNS (the catalogue of where a site name gets directed, for example http://www.PeakProsperity.com gets directed to 174.120.12.180  If you want to reach this site faster without routers having to look up the site name,  you would use http://174.120.12.180 for this site. In all likelyhood the internet backbone would not be shut as it is used by most agencies of the government and military for communication (that is what it was designed for) and so you would need the IP numbers as the government would direct the routers to only us IP’s and not forward the info request to any named site that is not on a government posted exception list.

  • Tue, Mar 01, 2011 - 10:59pm

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    elsur

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    How to find the IP address?

Great idea SimonR4! 

How does one locate the IP address for a website?

Thanks,

Elsur

  • Tue, Mar 01, 2011 - 11:47pm

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    goes211

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    IP address lookup

On a PC, Mac, or Linux box you should be able to get to a command prompt and then type:

nslookup PeakProsperity.com

The results will look something like this on a PC.

C:>nslookup PeakProsperity.com
Server:  My_Router
Address:  192.168.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    PeakProsperity.com
Address:  174.120.12.180

C:>

Just realize that these IP address can change which is why it is convienient to use the name instead of the IP address directly.  Also many busy sites like google.com or yahoo.com will have several address that can be used to reach the site.

  • Wed, Mar 02, 2011 - 12:18am

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    Jager06

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    SteveR

I think for living in high density urban areas your plans are spot on.

Having the ability to relocate quickly and with minimal luggage would be my plan of choice. Your weak link is the travel itself and even more so, timing to get ahead of the crowd.

When the word gets out then it will be you and everyone else trying to make a run for it. Normal modes of travel may be unavailable, or deemed unlawful in the interest of national defense, medical quarantine etc.

If movement ot more secure location is your ideal, then I would want to make sure I had every available movement plan laid out with at least a map reconnaisance done. Map recon is when you look at specific routes that will be taken for the particular mode of travel you choose, for example if you are forced to walk to your secondary location. You walking route possibilities should be looked over on the map with several aspects in mind. You might have small children and need to move through less difficult terrain, but still have cover to conceal your movement, and distance to conceal the noise from the children. Maybe you plan on biking. You might need to look at the trail network and it’s proximity to potential checkpoints or larger recreational gathering areas that might attract the displaced or be used as an incident command center.

Dont forget to take the affects of weather into your deliberations.

I would be very careful to make sure that the predetermined location you plan to move to is also secure. Events of a magnitude to force you to move, may also restrict communication and your ability to confirm that your safe house is still in fact safe.

Just some food for thought.

Thanks for your input!

Jager06

 

  • Wed, Mar 02, 2011 - 12:39am

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    earthwise

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    Like minded people…

[quote=Jager06]

Earth,

Like minded people have to be created when someone as far along as yourself begins to reach out.

This is a process, and dropping the Crash Course in front of someone who is trying to keep track of the Kardashian girls will result in dismay and denial.

I suggest that you start converting your neighbors into a mutual support network by having a BBQ. Well maybe not just that, maybe setting up a Neighborhood watch will get things started.

I do not know your geographical circumstances with regards to population density and ability to monitor potential trouble makers near your neighbors homes. You may be able to use the neighborhood security as a means to start building the cooperative relationships that will lead to the type of community reliance we are all working towards.

Your invitation does not have to be neighborhood watch, it can be a sewing or quilting group, a friendly BBQ that is done regularly, an herbal remedies workshop that you coordinate, a barn raising….anything is the basis for breaking the ice. Follow up with regular events, whatever you choose, so that the most important thing can be sown, the basis for a relationship.

The basic idea is to do something with your neighbors, engage them, help them and be a good friend and a resource. There is no doubt that you are a great person to befriend and that you have a lot of attributes that will endear you to others. Once you have shown them that you care, that you are doing something for them without regard for reward and that you are not a nut job survivalist, then you can begin to draw their attention to the issues at hand. Help with problem solving by doing something together, be it a chicken coop or a charitable event.

Normal kindness and friendship will remove the barriers and the conversations will naturally turn towards things we regularly discuss here at CM.

Best wishes,

Jager06

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Jager,

Thanks for the input on community building. The problem I have is that I’m in a rural area (San Diego County, North County area) with few neighbors close by. Those few neighbors are unreceptive for a variety of reasons (old & crotchity, in denial, reclusive, broke and/or cheap and therefore unwilling to invest, or just plain goofy) except for one guy whose efforts are pathetic and half-hearted, perhaps because he’s only half convinced (and I kind of think he’s counting on riding my coattails if things get rough). But I’m grateful for even that. It’s better than nuthin’.  

I do have a lot of friends in my church community, but they are all spread out (geographically, financially and conceptually) and distracted by life. Other friend and acquaintance groups who know my sentiments have all given me the half-laughter line “If anything ever happens we’re coming to your house!”.   Oh gee thanks guys. That’s what I need, a bunch of helpless refugees.

One positive in in regard to the sparse population density is that there’s no bad guys around either. They may come, but they would be obvious and would be seen from a distance. The only ray of light is a newcomer who recently started to build a new house 1/4 mile away. He’s former military, really gung-ho, well armed and well trained, of sufficient means, and from what I can tell from our limited discussions, is seeing what we see. He’s an encouraging sign. We’ll definitely be talking more.

The lack of any other participants, however, doesn’t stop me from forging ahead on my own. Or from trying again.

  • Wed, Mar 02, 2011 - 06:22pm

    #18

    Jager06

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    Earthwise…

Good luck!

I am glad to hear you have a vet nearby! We PTSD addled neo nutjobs do tend to see things a little differently than most! Hopefully you two can get a solid base of support for each other going.

Best wishes,

Jager06

 

  • Wed, Mar 02, 2011 - 11:27pm

    #19

    FAlley

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    As a poor college student, I

As a poor college student, I have :

 

– Invested a little extra cash into some silver bars

– Bought a 1911 .45 handgun, some magazines, and training DVDs. Still need to purchase holster.

– Own shotgun and .22 rifle, with thousands of .22 rounds and about 40 shotgun slugs

– Have been stockpiling food, little by little, just taking a few items off the top of each wal-mart trip. I now have 1 duffle bag full of food

– Soap, razors, glasses, EXTRA CONTACTS, few bottles of water, several pairs of long wool undergarments and sweaters, rucksacks, sleeping bags, and various knick knacks.

I’ve accumulated very little (given my circumstance), but the little I have I hold as invaluable. The firearms, silver, and wool undergarments in paticular are precious.

  • Wed, Mar 02, 2011 - 11:37pm

    #20

    Aaron M

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    Tin Man

Fire me a PM.
I’ve got a holster you can have for free.

Cheers,

Aaron

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