Very interesting point of view. The covax is causing partial tolerance

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  • Tue, Sep 21, 2021 - 07:15pm

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    Friedrichs_teeth

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    Very interesting point of view. The covax is causing partial tolerance

Taswegian sent me this article to post and I’m glad she did. Instead of thinking of the vax as waning effectiveness, the author posits that it is becoming tolerant to the spike protein. He is basing this on how the autoimmune system works. There is a balance between immune outrage and immune laziness (my words) and depending on a bunch of factors the body leans one way or t’other. There was a research paper and mrna vaccine proposed (I don’t know if it was developed) that’s goal was to spur t-cell activation in order to relax immune responses in autoimmune disorder patients. They accomplished it with different lipid protein. Any way super-interesting and a great read.

https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/146211.html?thread=18362915#cmt18362915

 

  • Tue, Sep 21, 2021 - 08:05pm

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    Very interesting point of view. The covax is making in partial tolerance

“With all you’re getting, get understanding” -Malcom Forbes

Our Masters previously had “great success” with a non-sterilizing vaccine on their poultry.  You needn’t wonder why they are using one on us Eloi:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek%27s_disease

“The first Marek’s disease vaccine was introduced in 1970. The disease would cause mild paralysis, with the only identifiable lesions being in neural tissue. Mortality of chickens infected with Marek’s disease was quite low. Current strains of Marek virus, decades after the first vaccine was introduced, cause lymphoma formation throughout the chicken’s body and mortality rates have reached 100% in unvaccinated chickens. The Marek’s disease vaccine is a “leaky vaccine”, which means that only the symptoms of the disease are prevented.

I’m surprised they haven’t deleted this Wikipedia post just yet. You might want to check it out now.

 

 

  • Wed, Sep 22, 2021 - 05:35am

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    Very interesting point of view. The covax is causing partial tolerance

Thanks for posting this FT!

I thought it was interesting that it gave a possible explanation for the the odd quirk in the UK stats, showing less hospitalizations for the vaxxed, but more deaths, which seems counterintuitive!

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    Very interesting point of view. The covax is causing partial tolerance

Also, a further comment today from the same guy:

Tolerance is a broad term for a collection of mechanisms that serve to prevent the immune system from attacking its own cells. It is of concern with the genetic covid vaccines because our own cells produce the spike protein and so the body is likely to perceive the resulting immune response as an auto-attack. No genetic vaccines have been previously widely deployed in the human population.

 

Tolerance would be expected to increase the likelihood of infection and transmission, but paradoxically it can also decrease the likelihood of severe illness, when severe illness results from an immune overreaction. This is true of covid, and some treatments for hospitalized patients have actually sought to induce immune tolerance.

 

Tolerance will not *cause* ADE, but it could exacerbate ADE if the body is less able to mount an effective initial attack.

 

Tolerance can be antigen-specific, and/or it can manifest as a broader down-regulation of the innate immune system resulting in increased vulnerability to a variety of infections or potentially reawakening of dormant viruses in the body. There is some evidence that both of these may be occurring.

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