Vax mandates in healthcare HELP

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  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 07:50pm

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    JuliaAG

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    Vax mandates in healthcare HELP

I have several friends who are facing losing their jobs in healthcare. A couple of nurses, a VP of a large hospital, and a bio researcher are all under pressure to vax. The latter two for sure have had Covid and are personally comfortable with their natural immunity. Has anyone had any success rebutting the pressure to vax? I’d love to share your experiences and any links to data that were useful in these venues. TIA

  • Mon, Aug 16, 2021 - 08:46pm

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    Paula Booze Casey

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I follow Sidney Powell – here is a link to her site.  There are forms for religious exemption and other steps for a person to take when being forced to take vaccine.

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  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 01:15am   (Reply to #2)

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    Blaggers

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Which country are you in Julia?

  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 02:48am

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    big increase in adverse events when vaxxing prior-COVID

And when I say big, I mean a factor of 4.59.

So if you are a covid-recovered HCW, and you get the shot, your chances of having a “clinically significant” event is 4.59 times more likely.

If it were me, I’d wave this study at my bosses and say “I have immunity already.  Your regulation is not only science-denial, but it will tend to injure me preferentially!”

In general, Moderna had more side effects than Pfizer (1.65x), and the 2nd shot of Moderna is worse than the first (2.44x).  Being male is protective (i.e. females get injured more) by 0.82x.  Old people are hit harder too (1.42x) at least for shot #1.

One wonders if the people who get a “clinically significant event” just skip shot #2.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2782821

  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 03:29am

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That is horrible Julia. You know that in “times of war, everything is allowed”. In my opinion facts do not matter anymore, lying about other “acceptable” reasons is imo fully acceptable. Paula gave an interesting link. Another possibility would be to contact dr Fleming. You can just pop him an email. You can find his contact information on his site. Explain the situation. He is very active both on scientific as legal side.

https://www.flemingmethod.com

Good luck.

Edit: I send him an email. I will post hist reply, if I get one. My heart is bleeding, the followers of the “Path of Psy Goo” need to be stopped🤬

  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 04:45am

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Hi Julia

Robert Barnes is working with Robert Kennedy on lawsuits in many states. I recommend listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXXUSvezb8M  and following links therein

  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 10:25am   (Reply to #2)

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The US in Pennsylvania.

  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 10:44am

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    Blaggers

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Jan sent me some good links but it’s for Canada.

Good luck. You’re not alone.

  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 11:23am

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Time to lawyer up.  If your friends can join with others at work who are in the same position, that’s even better.

From Adam Gaertner’s twitter feed:

Here is a full list of attorneys by state that are willing to fight for your rights against vaccine mandates.

Pass it on. Don’t give up. Don’t give in.

https://uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/Vaccine%20Attorneys.pdf

 

  • Tue, Aug 17, 2021 - 12:00pm

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Hi Julia,

I am facing the exact same thing. It was announced last Thursday and I was sad and angry. I work for a healthcare system but have zero patient contact. They are giving some religious and medical exemptions decided by committee on a case-by-case basis. I have a feeling those will be difficult to get. I’ve written a letter to the governor of our state who has stood up against mandates before (masks). There is going to be a big 2 day peaceful protest “Healthcare Workers for Medical Freedom Rally” organized by Nebraskans Against Government Overreach (nago.group) next week on Monday & Tuesday. I am hoping they back off a bit, come up with other alternatives or make the Novavax available. I don’t hold out a lot of hope legally on my own because it is 8 large medical systems combined and I’m sure they had their legal ducks in a row before announcing this. I’d be better off finding another job than blowing every asset I have trying to fight it.

The thing I’m worried about is finding another job only to have the same thing happen over and over and be in a worse position when difficult economic times are surely going to get worse. I am still undecided and have about 7 weeks to figure it all out.

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