Vaccine issues and sources

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  • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 03:25pm

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    Jim H

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    Good points Curtains…

I would say that one of my ways of dealing with the mass psychosis is to consider Vax prophylaxis.  I would suppose that you have seen this discussed in the various comment threads.  Clearly, if one could shut down the mRNA transcription function of one or more of the Vax candidates, the likelihood it would do you damage would be much, much less.  Ivermectin stops proteins from traversing the nucleus.

At the same time, it’s incredibly frustrating for those of us who are awake, because we are constantly looking behind the curtain, and while we can’t necessarily identify who it is behind the curtain, we can certainly see the levers they are pushing and pulling on.  Whether its the high PCR test cycles used to drive (scary) case numbers earlier in the pandemic, or the low PCR test cycles (and associated policies, like only testing if you are hospitalized) now used for testing the vaccinated (wouldn’t want the word to get out regarding transmission) we can see it.

Now we can see how vaccine injury is being swept under the pharma-fascist carpet, at least in Canada.. again, from the Medscape comment string;

Thanks for this and I hope the UK is different -The passive reporting system ( vaers) in the US was found by Harvard to only capture about 1% of all injury. Here in Canada, we have had two canadian doctors speak publically ( at risk of college reprimand) about the obstructive behavior they have experienced trying to report concerning injuries. One health authority ” lost” the reports of paralysis, death, Neuro injury and then cancelled 1/2 his shifts for going public. Another doctor was told every reaction he reported was not jab related and despite his advice to the involved patients to not get the second shot, they were all telephoned at home by the health authority and told to ignore the doctor and his interpretation of injury.

The reporting system only works if it’s genuinely transparent and curious and at from what I can see on this side of the pond, it is not.

  • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 03:37pm

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    Rigorously tested? Vaccine issues and sources

My son in law was a participant in the first Pfizer trial. The original time frame he was given was that he would find out if he had the actual experimental vaccine or a placebo in APRIL of 2021! The first trial participants were given their status early–in February of 2021.  By that time the EUA jab had already been put into millions of people.  I become furious every time I read or am told this “vaccine” has been rigorously tested and “proven extremely safe.” Just exactly WHEN did that occur?

He and my daughter, despite expressing our serious concerns, both went for the shot shortly after he got his results. Now, all we can do is pray.

 

  • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 03:53pm

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    Vaccine issues and sources

One of the incredible things about that DarkHorse interview was their systematic portrayal of every single part of the system being utterly broken.  Now Im mad again that you reminded me about PCR cycles between vaxed and unvaxed…

The VAERS discussion they had was really interesting because they made it clear as insiders that an EUA trades data collected in trails before hand with data meticulously collected in the field which… they aren’t doing either…

And every other safeguard our system is supposed to provide fails in a similar fashion. Both to protect from potential harm and to provide potential benefit.

And yeah Im thinking a lot about vaccine prophylaxis.  I think we need just a bit more time for the curious practitioners of the world to come up with something that will take most of the risk away.

I’m struggling right now between Chris’ view that you take the non-mRna because its got better long term data or one of the DarkHorse guests view that you take Pfizer because its a smaller dose than Moderna and has less blood clots than non-mRna options at the cost of long term unknowns.

Just a bit more time…

I don’t think this hysteria train can be stopped.  I think this will turn out like history’s other tragedies where after the truth comes out, everyone just looks at their shoes and says, “well, no one could have known…”

 

When you think about the death toll of Iraq 2 and that it was all for a lie a child could have seen through, and then you think about the consequences in popular culture I think that’s what we are looking at here, albeit on a larger scale.

In 20 years we will have some nearly perfected version of these technologies and people will forget that they ever said the people who wanted to wait a bit were being totally irrational assholes.

More importantly the dead and severely injured will be silent and therefore not part of the conversation, just like the dead in Iraq aren’t part of the conversation.

I want to say that “At least everybody’s odds are good in the absolute sense no matter what they do” but those two guests made it sound like the vaccine injuries are incredibly more common than thought even by the “10x underestimated crowd”.

Hey Zerohedge is reporting the UK just extended their lockdown another month.

 

Science!!!

  • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 04:24pm

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    AndrewOregon

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    How long will antibody tests, Tcell tests pick up Covid-19 indicators?

Chris suggests anti-body tests and perhaps Tcell tests. Any idea how long either of these stay in your body to be found/still useful?

I had a vicious bout of flu which resulted in long-term diminished lung capacity about 3 years ago. Stories of Baric’s work in Carolina on tennuated virus vaccine makes me wonder if I didn’t have a touch of a form of Covid-19 some time before 2019. Suggestions/clarifications appreciated.

  • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 04:43pm   (Reply to #19)

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    How to avoid a positive covid test

Nebulize with 3% hydrogen peroxide for several minutes and then rinse nose with saline solution and blow nose.

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From the transcript of a discussion between Dr Mercola and Dr Thomas Levy.

Dr. Thomas Levy:
The thing is too is I talk about oh, if you have something, well, do it for 10 or 15 minutes. No, for this maintenance we’re talking about just one, two, three minutes.
Dr. Joseph Mercola:
Yeah.
Dr. Thomas Levy:
That’s all you need for the maintenance because if there is something going on it’s a very low titer, very early, and you knock it out quickly. Also, I would submit to you this is a good way to if you’re unfortunate enough to have a positive COVID test, doing this nebulization and then rinsing your nares, your nose, with saline solution so that you blow your nose after you’re through is a good way to very rapidly turn that test to normal, especially if you’re not dealing with any significant infection because as soon as you eliminate the virus presence where there’s sampling in the nose, it’s not possible to any longer have a positive test.

The interview was in early April and was published on Dr Mercola’s site but he had to remove all covid-related posts due to personal threats. I have the PDF transcript. This is a direct quote from it.

  • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 10:37pm

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    Vaccine issues and sources

https://humansarefree.com/2021/06/infertility-prostate-cancer-in-men-jabbed-with-covid-vaccines.html

 

This article was found by Arthur Robey. I’m posting it here for posterity. It is more evidence of what we see going on with the vaccine. Moving beyond anecdote now.

 

But more in line with anecdote, a woman I know who is trying to become pregnant had a very late period with light spotting which is usually indicative of pregnancy. She was not pregnant, and has been regular every month at 28 day cycles. Now her body is behaving like she’s in menopause… at 30. The case is getting clearer.

  • Fri, Jun 11, 2021 - 11:57pm

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IM Doc, at Naked Capitalism today,  leaves this sobering note re reported cases of myocarditis

about the 226 myocarditis patients so far in the USA.

With phrases like “fully recovered” in the CDC press statements – I can feel and sense the coverup from Big Pharma and their captivated agencies already happening.

I have been an internist for 3 decades – I would like to share with everyone my experience with myocarditis patients to make sure there is clarity – this is not going to be a one and done kind of thing – this will be with us for some time.

When I was young, the patients of the pre-antibiotic era were just becoming elderly. During their youth, there were bacterial infections that rather commonly affected the heart valves, the pericardium, or the heart muscle itself – either the bug itself or the inflammation. These issues are unheard of today with antibiotics but it was not unusual then. I got to be involved in the tail end of that lifelong process for several patients – these patients were not well – they suffered from heart failure symptoms, valve failure and pericardial issues for their whole life – not to mention the spectre of rhythm problems at any time.

The point being – once the heart is infected or inflamed like this, it is scarred – and that is for life. Almost all of them will eventually have heart failure, rhythm problems or both. And it may take decades to develop.

I am afraid this vaccine phenomenon will be no different. I have seen several patients in my life with post-partum myocarditis – thought to be an immune issue – and I have seen several with lupus and other inflammatory issues. Actual viral or vaccine related myocarditis is vanishingly rare – and I want to reiterate that to the heavens. This occurrence we are seeing now is absolutely related to something the vaccine is doing to our young men – we just do not know what it is happening yet.

Big Pharma will tell us they have “fully recovered”. THIS IS A LIE. These patients never fully recover. Their athletic abilities will be diminished. Many will face a middle age filled with heart failure and rhythm problems. I am going to predict right now that we as a country are going to see an uptick in “athletes dropping dead on the football field” issues over the next 10 years. The Big Pharma marketers are in overdrive right now trying to minimize this. I feel it is my obligation to inform people the best way I know.

The CDC is reporting only 226 cases – please note – that this is just in the 18 and ups that have already been vaccinated. These do not represent the cases in teenagers which we just started vaccinating in the past month. These are only the 20 and 30 something young men over the past 2 months. My old academic center in a major metro area – has had dozens of cases already. I bring that up because if you multiply that out for the whole USA – there are assuredly way more than 226. This is a reflection of our broken reporting system.

More troubling to me – I READ ABOUT THIS PROBLEM FROM ISRAEL 2 months ago. IF I READ ABOUT, YOU CAN BE ASSURED THE CDC and FDA KNEW ALL ABOUT IT. AND YET NOT A THING WAS DONE – NOT A WORD SAID. The corruption, dissembling and lies are just simply breathtaking.

The CDC has described this as an “emergency” meeting. Indeed – if it is truly being dealt with as an “emergency” – their asses should be in session today – but yet – we are waiting for an entire week.

There is every indication that the younger we go – the more likely this will happen. It occurs after the 2nd dose. And we are just now 5 days into the 2nd dose for the 12-15 years age cohort. I just checked – there are already SEVEN cases of heart issues in the VAERS for this age group.

Folks, this is as concerning as it gets. From my very first guest post in December – I discussed unforeseen problems and how the vaccines had not been tested. More concerning, I discussed the complete corruption of the members of the FDA advisory committee. They truly are in the pockets of Big Pharma.

The numbers simply do not make sense for anyone under 20 to be vaccinated until we have much better information. This is ESPECIALLY TRUE of those who already have had COVID or positive antibodies. Increasingly, research is showing they are just as protected in that status as with the vaccines.

These universities that are forcing this on these kids are literally playing with fire. As of this week, I have been warning anybody in that age group as patients and any parents NOT to take the vaccine at this time. My profession must begin behaving in the interest of the patients and not Big Pharma or all will be lost.

  • Wed, Jun 16, 2021 - 05:38pm

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    Dontknownothin

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    Vaccine issues and sources

Excess mortality images of Europe 2020-2021. Note 2021 spike.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Excess_mortality_-_statistics

Vaccine rollout in europe was full force in December 2020

https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/public-health/eu-vaccines-strategy_en

 

European vaccination statistics:

https://covid19-vaccine-report.ecdc.europa.eu/

Normal death rate US

https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D76

 

2021 excess deaths from all causes.

https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/osr/Provisional/MontlyDxCounts.asp

No national mortality counts for 2021 yet but you can see by michigans counts the death rate has fallen back to just above its pre-covid baseline. With little indication it has tapered off due to vaccination.

 

At best the vax ain’t working. At worst, its making things worse. Time will tell.

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