Vaccinations or Gene Therapy?

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  • Tue, Jan 26, 2021 - 07:31pm

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    Oliveoilguy

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    Vaccinations or Gene Therapy?

Lots of good questions asked……Food for thought

It’s Gene Therapy, Not a Vaccine

  • Tue, Jan 26, 2021 - 10:32pm

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    OOG, excellent find!

The sad thing is, the people I’m talking to are lining up to get this “vaccine” and think it will be their salvation and the salvation of the world. Presenting them with facts which should raise concerns for them seems to make little to no difference for the vast majority in their decision to get the vaccine as soon as possible. It’s a fascinating example of mass hysteria.

  • Wed, Jan 27, 2021 - 02:59am

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    Mpup

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    Thank you OOG for this link

This is an excellent article/interview.  Very well said.   Will be forwarding this to many family and friends.  Unfortunately those who have already received the “vaccine” will view this as an attempt to question their intelligence, and their decision making process.  Both of my daughters are medical professionals.  One has already received the “vaccine” she felt her “duty”.  The other has refused on “religious grounds”   Those divided and confused by propaganda are much easier to control.  .

Thankfully, most here at PP because of the sharing of knowledge, understand and appreciate that which Dr. Martin shares. Only wish it could go viral.

PP a great place to be.

  • Wed, Jan 27, 2021 - 03:26am

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    Vaccinations or Gene Therapy?

Unfortunately those who have already received the “vaccine” will view this as an attempt to question their intelligence, and their decision making process.

And it obviously is. And it’s totally appropriate.

  • Wed, Jan 27, 2021 - 09:14am

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    Viral Video Makes False and Unsupported Claims About Vaccinations

Are you willing to look at other perspectives?

Why mRNA COVID Vaccines Can’t Change Your DNA
https://www.newsweek.com/covid-coronavirus-mrna-vaccines-human-dna-conspiracy-theory-fact-check-1558962?fbclid=IwAR24tE7VNpTDyIbBbNXX-xrx8X3-GgJAx8iGl1G7yIi6GP75RW-aUgos_u4

More disinformation on Vaccines

Viral Video Makes False and Unsupported Claims About Vaccines

  • Wed, Jan 27, 2021 - 01:10pm   (Reply to #5)

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    Grover

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    Fact Check – Not Really

garystamper,

The Factcheck.org article was far less than convincing. I have to admit that it sure sounds good for someone who would want it to sound good. Even the Editor’s note at the end makes it sound like it is purely grass-root funded:

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org does not accept advertising. We rely on grants and individual donations from people like you. Please consider a donation. Credit card donations may be made through our “Donate” page. If you prefer to give by check, send to: FactCheck.org, Annenberg Public Policy Center, 202 S. 36th St., Philadelphia, PA 19104.

Do you see anywhere in that statement where they won’t accept money from Big Pharma or any of the billionaires who attach smelly strings to large donations? I sure don’t.

I’ll pick on just one of their glossed checking of facts – vaccine liability:

Vaccines are extensively tested to ensure they’re effective and safe. But just like any other medication, they’re not risk-free and can cause adverse events or side effects. Most vaccines can cause pain, redness or tenderness where they were injected, and some can cause more severe events.

There is a protocol that vaccines must follow. Just like any government-developed mandate, loop holes exist (purposefully inserted in the legislation) to account for special cases. Take the special case where there are no approved treatments for a novel virus. Oh, that’s right. The treatments that poor countries are using to keep the virus in check (hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, etc.) haven’t been approved for use in the USA.

That opens up a loop hole where big Pharma gets an emergency use authorization so they don’t have to extensively test their products. Hmmm. There wasn’t one word in that article concerning this. Wouldn’t an honest debunking mention the difference and explain why the extensive testing really isn’t necessary to make this “vaccine” safe? Instead, they talk a bit about the vaccine “court” and the miniscule amount of payouts ($4.2 billion in 32 years.)

I’ve found similar glossing throughout the article. Frankly, I’m leery of anyone claiming to be an authority. That doesn’t mean that the individual/group should not be given a chance to establish creditworthiness, but it should be viewed with a jaundiced eye. If this piece is typical work for this organization, only a fool (or someone with big bucks trying to fool people) would donate to them.

Grover

  • Wed, Jan 27, 2021 - 01:57pm   (Reply to #4)

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    Vaccinations or Gene Therapy?

This raises questions for  people who are trying to gather information about Vaccines to make an informed decision. Hopefully there can be intelligent discussion about critical issues….I am not a medical professional and am listening to all sides.
I have personally done a procedure similar to gene therapy and have “skin in the game”

  • Wed, Jan 27, 2021 - 03:26pm

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    cgarcia

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    Vaccinations or Gene Therapy?

Gene therapy still falls short

That’s actually an experimental gene therapy

Experimental = unproven, barely tested.

  • Wed, Jan 27, 2021 - 03:36pm

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    Reply To: Vaccinations or Gene Therapy?

There is a distinction between instructing your body to make a part of a toxin to trigger an immune response, and injecting a vaccine that triggers an immune response. This is the subtle difference between a traditional vaccine and the mRNA “gene therapy “.

”These findings, announced by Moderna on Nov. 16 and by Pfizer and its partner BioNTech on Nov. 9 (with an update on Nov. 18), demonstrate that gene therapy is a viable strategy for developing vaccines to combat COVID-19. Both vaccine candidates use mRNA to program a person’s cells to produce many copies of a fragment of the virus. The fragment then stimulates the immune system to attack if the real virus tries to invade the body.”

  • Wed, Jan 27, 2021 - 04:02pm

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    Biden on our vaccine program

this can’t be real…. but it’s funny as hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY6Sca16tko&feature=youtu.be

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