URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

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  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 01:49pm

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    The UK is now admitting to the possibility of immune escape

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 01:52pm

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    Berenson and Risch on breakthroughs

I can’t get the rumble link to post no matter what I try….

 

Taking an honest look at breakthrough cases and push to demand lockdowns and masks. (rumble.com)

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 02:01pm

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    Look who is getting sick in Gibraltar – the vaccinated

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 02:22pm

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    Israel data analysis showing vaccine failure

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 02:27pm   (Reply to #19)

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

I have to admit I find the Novavax (inject some spikes) method a bit more amenable.

What I really want to see is the coronation study results (MMR) https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04333732. Sadly, because of the funding (Gates Foundation)  I think they will come back with an effectiveness of just below 50%.  Just under the threshold to be considered a vaccine for Covid.

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 02:44pm

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    Reply To: URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

according to the CDC, the PCR Ct is set at 28 if the person being tested has been vaxxed, vs. Ct  40 if not vaxxed.

so the PCR test can be rigged to give you whatever answer you want.

 

and we know they are way behind in their goals of vax rates in the US, and, there’s a great sense if urgency for some reason, but clearly has nothing to do with preventing any deaths

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 03:16pm

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

Hi all,

Based on your feedback and some further digging, it is safe to say that the “loudmouthed neighborhood bully”, i.e., the US, is the least forthcoming with data, either out of incompetence, or worse,  because of an hidden agenda.

I’ve found and seen nothing that corroborates the +95% statement. The information provided by most of you, does show that the vaxxed still end up in the hospital and ICU (Israel, Gibraltar; mostly pfizer, like the US).

Take care, Dave

 

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 03:23pm   (Reply to #27)

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

Primary Care_MD,

You wrote:

according to the CDC, the PCR Ct is set at 28 if the person being tested has been vaxxed, vs. Ct  40 if not vaxxed.

It is not that I doubt you, I have read the same thing. But do you have a link to that?

I am sure it is true and it is a total outrage.

But I would like to see it with my own eyes.

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 03:40pm   (Reply to #22)

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

Thanks for the post Jim,

Found the article  on Mashup.

grts, Dave

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 03:44pm

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    Reply To: URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

DaveDD,

The 95 per cent efficacy figure was a fraud from day one.

For instance, with Pfizer the control group was 40,000 people. The test group was 40,000 people.

That seems like a robust sample, right?

It wasn’t.

In the unprotected control group only a little more than 150 people got infected. That means that only .375 % of the control group got the virus. Put another way,  about 1/3 of one per cent of the control group caught the virus. In other words, the entire sample population had incredibly little exposure to the virus.

With a sample size so small, how can you determine anything?

Imagine, for instance, an Ivermectin study with only 150 participants.

Oh, the holy outrage that would ensue as to the utter uselessness of such an ivermectin study due to the small sample size.

And even worse, there have been criticisms that some people who were suspected infectees in the test group were not counted. Such an exclusion would made it look as if the vaccine was actually more effective than it was due to the lesser number of infectees in the test group.

All that being said, I think that these vaccines do provide some protection. I am just not sure what the real protection level might actually be.

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