URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

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  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 03:43am

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    DaveDD

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

Hi All,

I noticed that people around me are starting to blame the unvaxxed for the new cases. Additionally, they keep on repeating that +90% of the deaths are unvaxxinated. This is mainly based on statements from the US, conveniently ignoring UK data where it is ~ 50% as mentioned also by Chris. I tried to find data to support their US based claims, but I could not.

Does anyone of you have access to current data that shows the #deaths, age , plus vaxx status in the US? I only found one  statement of Bob Wachter who said that he didn’t have the breakdown, but that he assumed the deaths were mostly unvaxxinated… Plus this article (link) stating that

An Associated Press analysis of May data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 (0.1%) of the more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations, and only about 150 (0.8%) of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths.

Citing limitations in the data, the CDC hasn’t estimated rates of hospitalizations and deaths among fully vaccinated people, but the findings of the data analysis reflect what’s being said by many health officials and experts, according to the AP.

The last statements make my hair raise, not because it is against my belief, I’m openminded, but because it uses and argument from authority, i.e., not really “sciency”. At the bottom of this article, there is a link to the CDC website, where I found this statement (link),

We are still learning how effective the vaccines are against new variants of the virus that causes COVID-19.

This is not exactly helpful, and again no link to data. To be able to conclude things myself, I urgently need data: help!

Edit: I managed to find this link from the 12th of July mentioning ~1000 deaths under the vaxxinated. What I understand from this is that the reporting is reactive, it depends on whether it is reported.  Additionally, I found this link. This isn’t helpful either. I need more data.

Take care, Dave

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 05:15am

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Hi Dave,

Just a quick one from me, don’t have time to go data digging right now but this is the current farce in the UK:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9805573

/Sir-Patrick-Vallance-corrects-mistake-Covid-hospital-admissions.html

Basically our chief medical advisor admitted that 60% of Covid admissions into hospital comprised of double jabbed people. Then, after it became obvious what he had admitted, he reversed his position.

I suspect spreadsheets are being furiously amended this morning. It might be worth looking at information coming out of Israel, as that is the only source I suspect isn’t being tampered with (yet).

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 06:54am

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Hi Yggdrasil,

Thanks! Even after this “correction”, it is ~60% in the UK, not the 95% as in the US where there they claim that +95% of the new deaths under the unvaxxinated. This might be true, but there is, as far as I could see, no data to back this statement up. Before we go on a wild goose chase to explain the stated difference between the vaxxinated and unvaxxinated, or between the US and the UK, I want to see the US data.

Btw, I think that the data that you provided earlier indeed supports his original claim. The table below is from page 17 of the PHEs own report (link). Doing the math indeed shows that ~62% of the deaths due to the delta variant of people over 50, fall under the vaxxinated 62%=116/(116+71).

 

Thanks again! Dave

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 07:18am

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

I’d bet you won’t find that data for the US because I’m guessing vaxxed people don’t get Covid tests or diagnosis.  They get labeled as having clotting issues or pneumonia.  You might go looking at the Israeli data.  The other place you might find more vaxxed/Covid popping up is in the ICU.  If someone gets that sick they might do a post vaccine Covid test.

If you believe what the vaccines claim to do, then the vaxxed should get sick, spread it but not end up in the hospital.  We are in the “chicken pox party” phase of this where we get all the young people inoculated with natural immunity.

What we need to recognize is those with natural immunity are better protected and do not need a vaccine as they have already been inoculated.

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 07:18am   (Reply to #3)

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I was a at a dinner last night where one person corrected a d stated that their neighbor was in ICU and not doing welll.  This person was fully vaccinated

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 07:39am   (Reply to #3)

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Hi thesecuritygirl,

I wonder if there is an element of Antibody Dependency Enhancement occurring that the official narrative will be keen to supress? Although, would that be recorded as ‘organ failure’? Again, this is above my pay grade, but it might be worth determining how Antibody Dependency Enhancement presents itself? And then see if this occurs above baseline in the double jabbed.

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 09:24am

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

The 95% statement is a lie.  There is no need to chase it.  Simply set it aside, while you obtain the actual data in context, which all contradict it.

Many articles, with data, recently published…all contradict.

In fact, the most vaccinated populations have the most clinical cases of Covid19, and infections.  The least vaccinated…and un-vaccinated…populations have the lowest number to infected…and deaths…on Earth.

Example of both:  Gibraltar is 100% vaxxed, and is #3 most infected…   Zimbabwe is not vaccinated…and has the least infected and the fewest dead on the planet…even the reported cases and deaths are not certain to be actual.

Many people simply cannot tell ..if they are being lied too…and do not recognize propaganda techniques.   The clueless get jabbed, as do the emotionally driven intellects of lower capability.

Do not focus on them.  Your efforts to educate should be directed to those capable of grasping it.   Most of the lost cannot handle more than a quick sound bite..or a few sentences…or slogans.  The emotional propaganda drilled into them by the popular media, can only be overcome…by emotionally charged truths, which must vivid and stark, and simple to grasp.   But, even so…such counter programing must be continuous…else these types will simply lapse back into tenaciously adopting whatever viewpoint, which comes over the TV at the time.

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

I guess I would ask, who are the scientist, not bureaucrats or pharma paid scientists, but scientists  saying these vaccines are safe and effective?  We have lots of scientists who have nothing to gain, saying ivermectin works and these vaccines have enough issues that everyone should do their own risk vs. reward analysis.

Now perhaps I am traveling in a bubble although I don’t think I am because of YTs censorship. If anything I am existing in a pro vaccine bubble. Where is the Dr. Martenson, Dr. Kory, Dr. Malone or Dr. Bret Weinstein showing ivermectin doesn’t work or mRNA technology is perfectly safe?  Even the Dr. Campbell or Dr. Mobeen who are more provaccine still support vitamin D and Ivermectin.   The one I stumbled across, Zdogg, didn’t seem to give scientific facts, just “the WHO/FDA, CDC(bureaucrats) say…”.

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 10:01am

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

The best that’s available requires too much statistical analysis to be digestible for the common CNN drones.

If they’re vaccinated, ask them what they have to worry about. They haven’t caught measles yet right? So if the vaccine works, its not their problem.

If they don’t think the vaccine really works then why the hell did they get it? Ask them why its being pushed so hard. Why do they care if others aren’t protected if their vaccine is effective?

  • Tue, Jul 20, 2021 - 10:16am   (Reply to #8)

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    URGENT: data needed to verify unvaxxed are the main casualties now in the US

If you seek the a specific champion doctor…who is promoting the mRNA serums…you can simply look at Dr. Fauci, and all of his associated doctors, who actually created the SARS COV 2 virus, bioweapon…had its lethality enhanced…provided it to the Canadians and to the Chinese…and has profited from it.

You can seek all the doctors promoting the serums, who are associated with the NIAID, the NIH, and all the other shelter companies and organizations…of which Dr. Fauci is a member and stockholder.

We have already begun to create the lists of names, which will be some of the first people to be brought before the World Court for Crimes Against Humanity…currently being prepared in Germany.

From the very beginning…it has been known, NONE of the experimental serums, which idiots call “vaccines,” are effective against SARS COV 2, or COVID19.  The very FDA submissions for their emergency use, provide the actual efficiency rates for both the Pfizer and Moderna..serum of between 0.08% and 1.2% effective..which is statistically ZERO efficacy.

Dr. Fauci is a mass murderer, as are hundreds of his associates, who should all have their lives terminated, by the very bioweapons they have created.

 

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