Trust Lost in Institutions, what now? General vaccine safes for newborns?

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  • Mon, Dec 06, 2021 - 09:18pm

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    Alex Chung

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    Trust Lost in Institutions, what now? General vaccine safes for newborns?

Hi All,

As this pandemic has shown us, the institutions that we trusted have not been honest with us. Captured institutions have different goals than we have ourselves.

I just had a newborn and now I am rethinking all that ‘normal’ to me. The immediate thing is the vaccine schedule for newborn/children. Which are safe? Are any safe? Should any be taken? Hep B, Small Pox, Chicken Pox, Polio?

I’ve been trying to look for reliable sources to figure this out, with little luck.   Was hoping the PP Hivemind could help out.

Any other things that were “normal” that need to be reanalyzed?

Thanks all!

  • Mon, Dec 06, 2021 - 09:52pm

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I’m more skeptical of it now. I developed a neurological disorder when I was young and now looking back on it I’ve realized it was likely caused by vaccinations taken at the same time. RFK Jr. might have some good insight on this in his writings.

 

  • Mon, Dec 06, 2021 - 10:17pm

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    Trust Lost in Institutions, what now? General vaccine safes for newborns?

My (super healthy and thriving) 5 year-old son was current with all his vaccines as of the beginning of this year.  The shady and corrupt sh!t swirling around the COVID jabs has his mother and I holding off on anything further for now.

“How can we know they’re not putting something awful in *all* the vaccines at this point,” she asked me.

“We can’t,” I replied.

So — for the now — we are on a vaccine hold.  I think there’s a decent gap in the vax schedule between age 3-4 and like grade 1 (age 5-6), so we have until next Fall to really decide.

For what it’s worth, from birth through age 4, whenever he was scheduled for vaccines, we would get him one a week.  In other words, if at age 2 he was due to get 3 or 4 vaccines, we would take him to the doctor once a week for three or four weeks to get one shot each visit until he was caught up.  I have no idea if spacing them out changed anything, but nothing ill happened so we would keep that practice up if — when the time comes (and we decide the Medical Industrial Complex is, from time to time, actually trustworthy) — we resume a normal kids vaccine schedule.

But at this point, it will take a major shift for me to trust the “healthcare” industry at this point.  Not to throw shade on all doctors and nurses et alia, but the whole edifice seems pretty rotten.  Most practitioners seem to be (either credulously or cowardly) taking their orders from on high without question.  And IMO the folks on high most definitely do not have my happy healthy outcome on their “to do” list…

  • Mon, Dec 06, 2021 - 10:25pm

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    Trust Lost in Institutions, what now? General vaccine safes for newborns?

Have a newborn too and have done 3 vaccines so far for Rotavirus (orally),  Diphtheria/tetanus/polio/hep B/polio and Pneumococcal (2 injections).  I feel the vaccines which have been around for a while are still safe unless I see some information suggesting otherwise.

My 6yr old son has had his vaccinations on schedule and no issues for him (i.e. autism or anything like that).

New medications/vaccines I will be avoiding though until there have been a number of years since they were released.  It is like buying a car – never get the first of a new model!

  • Mon, Dec 06, 2021 - 10:34pm

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Hi Alex.

I am actually super grateful to covid because it is making people question things like this. No one can tell you exactly what is right for your family,  but here is what I did that started me on the path to becoming a full fledged “antivaxxer.”

 

I went to the CDC, to that page where they said “vaccines are safe and effective. ”

 

I read the page.

 

Then I read the citations.

 

At the time (this was about ten years ago, when I had a newborn) they had references 10 studies. I could find 9 of them in their entirety.

 

I read those nine.

 

And I decided to wait.

To me, it seemed that the evidence presented by the CDC was insufficient to say that “vaccines are safe and effective.” Indeed, once you start looking into it, most vaccine studies are specifically about MMR and whether it does or does not cause autism. There is a huge lack of data regarding every other vaccine out there. Additionally,  none of the vaccines on the childhood schedule (with the sort of  exception of HPV) were tested in trials against an inert placebo (i.e. saline). Additional,  all or them, as with Covid vaccines, were only tried for safety for months, not years (if even, the Hep B trails only looked at safety for 5 days!).

All in all , I have more questions than answer regarding the safety of our every day childhood vaccines. I used to recommend people, who are interested in getting a broad idea of some of the issues , watch Del Bigtree’s talk at The Truth about Cancer. It used to be on YouTube, but I think it was taken off this year. But it was a good overview of some of the things you might want to look into while you are researching.

 

Best of luck making the best decision for your family!

 

P.s. I ended up not vaccinating my kids (after the first one I got while pregnant), and my husband is completely unvaccinated. He is the healthiest person I know. And my kids are so much healthier then I was as a child, and better then most children we know.

 

  • Mon, Dec 06, 2021 - 10:35pm

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Suggested read:  tobyrogers.substack.com/p/the-political-economy-of-autism

  • Mon, Dec 06, 2021 - 10:44pm

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Another great resource is the podcast The Vaccine conversation with Melissa and Dr. Bob. Start with some of the very first episodes,  they spent a while at the beginning going over the childhood vaccine schedule bit by bit, going over the risks of the disease and the risks of the vaccines in a really unbiased manner. After listening to those there was actually one or two that I would have seriously considered getting if my kids hadn’t already passed the danger age. There were also a bunch that made even less sense then I thought.

  • Tue, Dec 07, 2021 - 04:45am

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    Trust Lost in Institutions, what now? General vaccine safes for newborns?

The childhood vaccines are definitely not safe.  And were NEVER properly tested for safety.  They are a major reason why chronic health issues are skyrocketing in younger folks.

If you feel you must vaccinate, take a look at Dr. Paul Thomas’ book.  The Vaccine Friendly Plan.  He offers suggestions for alternative schedules.  He has been a pediatrician for many years.  His healthiest patients have never been vaccinated.  The least healthy followed CDC’s schedule.  Moderate health in children who elected his alternative schedule.

  • Tue, Dec 07, 2021 - 05:05am

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Some people suggest skipping the birth dose of the Hep B shot. Then you have time  to decide. (to be clear, please understand that none of this is medical advice).

James Lyons-Weiler has a lot of information on childhood vaccines on his website.

I have taken care of infants with Hib, whooping cough, and pneumococcal meningitis. So the standard vax at 2, 4, and 6 mo protect against  those diseases, which are still around (not medical advice). But Covid has made me question not only vaccine safety, but my whole profession – how can so many doctors and nurses be participating in Holocaust 2.0? The number of deaths will go up. By design. I’m taking time off, thinking of a career change, because medicine is now all about turning humans into ATMs, and guinea pigs.

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  • Tue, Dec 07, 2021 - 07:02am

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    richcabot

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    Read RFK book

Read RFK Jr’s book about Fauci.  He has lots of material about regular vaccines, the lack of safety testing, and the correlation with autism.   Consider the book a $25 investment in your kids.

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