Time to Circle the Wagons?

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  • Sat, Aug 21, 2021 - 02:31pm

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    Boomer41

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    Time to Circle the Wagons?

Here, in the illusory safety of the PP member site, we are surrounded by like-minded individuals who mostly share our beliefs and concerns. The prevailing consensus is that we are the enlightened ones; privileged to understand the truth and surrounded by uninformed masses who are being willfully misled by government propaganda and lies.

However, we should not be lulled into a sense of security by the reassuring voices of our tribe. The rest of the world is not by any means in agreement with our beliefs. Despite all of the science, the testimony of impeccably qualified medical experts, the logic and overwhelming data that supports our beliefs, we are a minority.

There is a huge population of ‘true believers’ out there. People who have swallowed the official narrative hook, line and sinker. People who believe with passionate intensity that the ‘vaccine’ will provide total safety from the Covid-19 virus – but only if every single soul, including small children, is injected with the magic potion.

No matter how misguided we think they are, their belief in the ‘vaccine’ is every bit as passionate as our belief that it is, at best, a hastily prepared, untested, genetic experiment which poses a grave risk to children and unknown future side effects to everyone.

However, while we are quietly confident in our belief and simply want to be left alone to lead our unvaccinated lives, the other side will not allow that. They are certain that we are dangerous to their survival. They are convinced we are all carriers of the dread virus that, they are sure, will kill them if we are allowed to inhabit the same space. They want us to be eliminated.

This is not hyperbole. It doesn’t take much of an internet search to find voices hysterically screaming for us to be identified, isolated and prevented from traveling or co-existing with them. We are in danger of being pushed into the category of sub-human ‘untermenschen’ just like the Jews and gypsies of Nazi Germany.

What is much worse is that the legacy media and governments of the Western World are in full support and open encouragement of this segregation and exclusion. The US Congress has already introduced legislation which will prevent us from boarding aircraft. The ‘Pass Sanitaire’ (Vax Passport) is already introduced and being enthusiastically enforced in France and is probably coming soon to an airport near you.

I suggest that we, as a tribe, should be paying less attention to the nuances of the Covid virus and its treatment and concentrating much more on the clear and present danger of the political and social threats with which we are surrounded. I propose that we would be well served by shifting the focus of our discussions here at PP away from the Virus and towards potentially dealing with a world in which we are a despised minority ruled by a tyrannical government.

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/12/its-ok-to-blame-the-unvaccinated–they-are-robbing-the-rest-of-us-of-our-freedoms/

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4980/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%224980%252

https://www.balloon-juice.com/2021/07/27/anger-at-the-unvaccinated/

  • Sat, Aug 21, 2021 - 02:39pm

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    Mike from Jersey

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Boomer,

You are dead on correct.

I am reminded of the quote from Terminator:

“It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!”

That is why – for myself – expatriation has been moved from the back burner to active consideration.

In the next week or so, I’ll be opening an account at Santander Bank (which has branches in Mexico.) After that, I’ll arrange sustainable funding (hopefully) for that account.

I want to be able to bug out on short notice.

  • Sat, Aug 21, 2021 - 02:45pm

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    lmcdel

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    Time to Circle the Wagons?

Thank you for sharing this thought. I agree with you – as I struggle with keeping up with all the details here, about the many aspects of covid. I know that I sometimes hyper-focus on the nuances (I just spent 20 minutes trying to figure out “what is the right type of zinc”) because I am still in disbelief at how this is all unfolding. It’s so much to contemplate.

I also want to say, that there are some or possibly many here, who share an overall worldview with the majority of the PP community, and have chosen to get vaxxed. Let this not be a dividing point between us, as we seek to recognize the many concerns we share. I do hope those who have made this choice will also choose to defend those who haven’t, that we can pull together because, with boosters on the horizon, and livelihoods threatened in all directions, defining who is unvaccinated is going to become a moving target. Best wishes to all who seek truth.

  • Sat, Aug 21, 2021 - 02:47pm   (Reply to #2)

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    bethafoot

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    Time to Circle the Wagons?

Yes absolutely. This is the greatest danger. It’s becoming very evident people are bound and determined to repeat history and personally I have some big concerns about this causing some upcoming wars, whether it be WW3 and/or a civil war here in the US. Actual geographic relocation would be wise… but there’s no place that’s really fully safe.

  • Sat, Aug 21, 2021 - 03:03pm

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    Mike from Jersey

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Bethafoot,

You wrote:

I have some big concerns about this causing some upcoming wars, whether it be WW3 and/or a civil war here in the US.

I also think about that. Although I think that civil war is a ways off. I think that some type of crazy geopolitical adventure could cause dominos to start falling ending in a nuclear holocaust.

For the past several years I have repeatedly said to myself that “just when I think that the country couldn’t get crazier … it gets crazier.”

In my wildest dreams I never would have imagined what has unfolded in the past year and a half. So I must finally admit a hard truth to myself. The people running this country are crazy, dangerous and capable of anything. And I mean that literally, anything. Even triggering a nuclear war.

  • Sat, Aug 21, 2021 - 03:38pm

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    Keriboo

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    Time to Circle the Wagons?

Don’t give up hope for a resolution other than bug out or hunker down. In the USA there should be room for legal challenges to the FDA on the initial shots and/or totally unproven boosters, at least enough to delay enforcement of any general population mandates.  And it may just take a delay to get through this – the shots are visibly failing and the executive gov credibility has been shredded in recent days due to Afghanistan.   Maybe impeachment or resignation in the works…

  • Sat, Aug 21, 2021 - 03:48pm

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    Friedrichs_teeth

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    Time to Circle the Wagons?

I am not stupid, I see the risks. I believe in Canada and the United States. I WILL NOT BE MOVED. They can make it ever more difficult to live, work and play. They can try and take my faith. They can take my liberty and even my life. But I WILL NOT BE MOVED.

  • Sat, Aug 21, 2021 - 04:04pm

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    Time to Circle the Wagons?

  • Sat, Aug 21, 2021 - 04:27pm   (Reply to #6)

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    MarkM

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    @keriboo

Don’t count on the courts. Have you seen this?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/us/supreme-court-indiana-university-covid-vaccine-mandate.html

Did you know of this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts

 

Friedrichs_teeth,

I respect everything you are saying.

But the United States is not the United States anymore.

I don’t want to leave. I have lived here all my life.

But when I look around and see what is happening – in every sphere of life – I realize that I am kidding myself if I believe that this will have a happy ending.

Every last system and institution – from family, to government, to finance, to healthcare, to foreign policy, to education, to media and so on – is an ongoing train wreck.

It is not one thing, it is everything. And it is metastasizing.

When I was younger I loved traveling to the Rocky Mountains. The people there were so happy, friendly and genuine. Being there was like breathing in the best of the human spirit.

I went back there three years ago and still saw some of that basic goodness. But I also saw sullenness and anger in others. It was as if a rot was working its way from the coasts into the heartland.

I’d be lying if I said that I thought that all this was going to end well.

I just can’t fool myself about it anymore.

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