This is what I have done

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  • Tue, Dec 23, 2008 - 11:32pm

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    maveri

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    Re: This is what I have done

We live in very interesting times.

You know, over the years I have grown to dislike America and it’s policies of take take take but I have to qualify that by saying I don’t hold the average American to blame.

Despite my dislike for the system of unfetished greed they have unleshed upon the world I am truely saddened by the unfolding events.

At the end of the day, those people loosing homes, loosing jobs, loosing perhaps their own lives are people – people like you and I.

I can no longer stand there and say you had it coming because when you see people hurting, all the ‘I’m right, your wrong’ make no bloody difference at all – we are all loosers in what’s happening.

I originated from NZ, so I have that option up my sleave if things get too bad in Australia. Australia has a lot going for it but if food becomes the most sought after commidity in time, then even Australia may find it difficult if droughts continue and global climate change continues. Food wise, I think NZ will hold it’s own and the current government just voted in there is very socialist and is cutting out a lot of the rott in the system – sweeping aside a lot of excuses for non-functioning in many sectors.

I have a very small house and I was looking at putting on extensions before all things started turning pear shaped. I will probably still proceed with this plan but I will look at doing something that will allow others to co-habbit our place if I can. There’s probably going to be a number of people displaced and I thought that perhaps making my place a haven for a few in time might come in handy (If this is folly – please correct me).

If social structures collapse, then it would be really handy to have a list of contacts in your local area who are like minded – by that I mean people who are prepared to band together for the benefit of others rather than exploit the situation. People posting in this site seen to be of this mind.

I realise too that protecting your identity and therefore your possible livelyhood in a time of crisis is important and having your information open to the view of all could be dangerous in time of social unrest – even so, there must be some way to foster perhaps some type of ’emergency contact list’ by area etc? Does this site support private messaging?

Anyhow – I’m just throwing out this type of idea to extend on this thread. It’s great to know what one can do and what others have done but perhaps in time, we will need to actually make contact and band together with others to be able to work together through what’s happening? Food for thought…

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  • Wed, Dec 24, 2008 - 01:55am

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    capesurvivor

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    Re: This is what I have done

Maveri,

 

I had thought that the CM website would be a good starting point for a loose community as you describe. Not clear yet on a feasible way to do this.

Security issues, to my mind, are probably paramount but I am unable to make any of the kind of changes such as relocation, etc., that others have done. As I mentioned to Davos on another thread, my wife considers this thread to be full of catastrophists and lunatics.  No room to maneuver there. My own small town is, fortunately, not too bad a place for post-peak oil/crash living and I’m trying to acquire  items and knowledge that I think will be helpful in the future.

 

Two old but good (and reprinted) works I’ve mentioned by 70’s survivalist writer Mel Tappan are "Tappan On Survival" and "Tappan On Guns", both prescient on collapse in general, though Mel did not put together the Triple E problems.

 

One problem here is that there is no central thread (unless I’ve missed it) for specific thinking about relocation, security, food, community, etc. I don’t know if starting a specific one like that is appropriate for CM’s site or not; specific ideas tend to crop up occasionally in various threads and I can’t follow them all.

 

SG

  • Wed, Dec 24, 2008 - 02:02am

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    joe2baba

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    Re: This is what I have done

good points sg

btw your wife is right.

i agree a separate place on the site to get into nuts and bolts would be a good idea. as it would be removed from the debates about philosophy. i have found some other sites that are devoted to that and i will probably be spending more time there.

maybe a forum under the act tab in the nav bar with sub threads for energy and food etc. the permaculture thread that mr loftus started is a good one 

joe

  • Wed, Dec 24, 2008 - 05:37am

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    ckessel

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    Re: This is what I have done as regards TV shows

[quote=Aaron Moyer]

Not to stray too far from the topic, but the worthwhile TV is drowning in a sea of materialistic BS.

In order to watch any given show – some of which are absolutely interesting and compelling, you have to sit through probably 1/2 hour of commercials, designed to entice you into spending like an idiot.

The Science Channel in particular is amazing, as is the National Geographic channel, History and several others in that vein.

Our news media is no better than tabloid journalism, and our shows are shoddy, poorly written humor designed for the "lowest common denominator".

Society is much better off with the "idiot box" off.

Cheers!

Aaron

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I have switched to using the satelite recording options for the TV. It has the option of recording a particular show like Nat’l Geo or your choice daily, weekly, etc. and then you can watch it when you like and fast forward the damn commercials out. Greatly speeds up the pgms too!

Coop

  • Wed, Dec 24, 2008 - 05:45am

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    ckessel

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    Re: has anyone constructed a bio gas digestor?

I found the references damnthematrix posted on a different thread as regards the bio-gas digester very helpful. Has anyone constructed one that they are using?

I also appreciate the Permaculture posts but other than Matrix, have not heard mention of the digestor being used for individual home uses. Any comments?

Coop

  • Wed, Dec 24, 2008 - 09:18am

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    Damnthematrix

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    Re: has anyone constructed a bio gas digestor?

[quote=ckessel]

I found the references damnthematrix posted on a different thread as regards the bio-gas digester very helpful. Has anyone constructed one that they are using?

I also appreciate the Permaculture posts but other than Matrix, have not heard mention of the digestor being used for individual home uses. Any comments?

Coop

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Don’t be silly……  you can buy gas at the gas station!  I did just that today myself…..

Now, I wish I could help, but as I said, this is a community project Transition Town Coopran is going to develop next year.  I could keep you posted as things develop, but there is in fact a lot of info on google about these.  If poor Indians can do this, then I think we in the developed world will have little trouble.. 

  • Thu, Dec 25, 2008 - 07:58pm

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    ckessel

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    Re: has anyone constructed a bio gas digestor?

[quote=Damnthematrix]

Don’t be silly……  you can buy gas at the gas station!  I did just that today myself…..

Now, I wish I could help, but as I said, this is a community project Transition Town Coopran is going to develop next year.  I could keep you posted as things develop, but there is in fact a lot of info on google about these.  If poor Indians can do this, then I think we in the developed world will have little trouble.. 

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Yea, Me too!  Probably will continue with that mode for awhile!

I wasn’t looking to the methane as the most valuable product but rather the heat and compost as mentioned in the post you referenced elsewhere. A French inventor  developed more of a celloluse (ground up brush and wood) digestor rather that the manure slurry options which seem to be most used.

I live in a temperate climate with conifer forests at slightly higher elevations which are heavily overgrown. I am considering developing a greenhouse that incorporates a digester from which I may be able to harvest heat for use in my solar assisted radiant heating systems.

Merry Christmas

Coop

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