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  • Tue, Oct 28, 2008 - 12:28pm

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    randallriggs

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    The Governments Grand Plan

Chris:

 Thank you for a wonderful series of videos that can teach us all a great deal about what is playing out in the news everyday. Unfortunately, I do not believe these things are "just happening". They seem to be following a very carefully crafted script where the end result is a "new world order" meaning a new world socialist government and all the people are just debt slaves. Believe me, I know this sounds crazy! Everyone needs to read the book "The Creature From Jekyll Island" about the creation of the current federal reserve central bank we have. It goes into great detail not only about the current fed but also the first three central bank "tries" in this country…and what happened with each. It also talks about the Rothschild dynesty and how JP Morgan was a front man for them in the creation of our current fed. The book is full of great detail.

More importantly, it outlines where the "rich and powerful" want the world to go….socialism. Wouldn’t you say we have made some moves in that direction recently?

 I’m not a crazy person! I’m an engineer with an MBA and served 5 years in the Nuclear Navy as a submarine officer. I have lost total confidence in our political system because of it’s corruptness. We need a complete change but I don’t think it will happen without a revolution.

 If anyone has any comments or thoughts about this, I’ all ears and hope I’m wrong.

 

Again, Chris……………….Thank you.

Randy

  • Tue, Oct 28, 2008 - 03:27pm

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Randy,

I am a little late to the party, but I pretty much go along with the idea that nothing is off the table to get where these people want to go.  I wish more than I can say, that this wasn’t true, but I have ran out of excuses why it could be anything else. If all the people that govern us are idiots, then the law of averages says that once in a while something would go our way, and that never happens.  I am so frustrated these days with the American voter who will simply not take one hour to figure anything out for theirself, and chose to follow the crowd, there is so much to learn if you just take the blinders off and look around.  People like you and I are made to look like we have tinfoil hats on, and marginalized to the point that you hate to even bring it up, but even if we got a little of it wrong, the possibility of it being true, and the disasterous effect that it will have on our childrens future, should make us want to err on the side of caution.  I do agree with you, this is an orchestrated event that is going to change everything that we have for too long taken for granted.  You have locks on doors to protect your loved ones, locks on banks to protect your valuables, but the most valuable thing we have, our freedoms and our Constitution, are being trampled on and we don’t even raise our voices in protest, go figure??  I don’t know how it will play out, but at some point, I think the people that have no stomach for violence are going to finally realize that unless you are willing to lay it on the line, you will get no respect, it is sad that it has to be that way, but that is the only thing the scum of this earth understand.  There is a point where enough is enough, and I think our founding fathers saw what had to be done and did it, and I think we are almost there again. I’m ready !!

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  • Tue, Oct 28, 2008 - 03:50pm

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interesting views.

i agree none of this is an accident. the revolution that founded this country started for less egregious deeds. but we have to remember jefferson, franklin, adams and the rest did not watch the news or listen to National Propaganda Radio.

the brainwashing of the sheeple is just about complete. yes we do have a well armed populace. that is a plus. but we also have the most powerful military in the world. it is a mercenary conglomeration of corporate america. they are being well trained in fighting insurgencies ,,,,,,,,,,,in case you have not noticed. i think they would be more effective on their own turf.

i have no illusions about the governments ability or will to crush the slightest hint of any internal dissent. witness chicago 68 and seattle wto. those were stoned soul picnics compared to what they are capable of. can you say disappeared.

i am also of the opinion that this has never really been a capitalist country. as soon as the first central bank was established we became a socialist regime. i have no problem living in a socialist country as that is exactly what i have grown up in. my problem is that it is a socialist country only for the wealthy. socialism was doing just fine in south america until our "capitalist corporations were left out of the party. latin america has still not recovered from the experiment with "pure " capitalism.

the rich and powerful have not wanted to go to socialism randy ……………they have been there all along.

i suggest a visit to chris’s book list. check out perfectly legal and johnstons other book free lunch. then check out some naomi klein.

then we can talk about a revolution………………who wants to take the next bullet?

  • Tue, Oct 28, 2008 - 05:12pm

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    Majormoney

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randallriggs, starbucks2, joe2baba, and many, many others–

There IS a ‘grand plan’ in addition to whatever conspiracy theories we may choose to believe.  The ‘grand plan’ is the Power and Control that Government exerts over the Marketplace.  It goes back to ancient times: "To the victor go the spoils."

2300 years ago, one of the greatest men who ever lived tried to teach mankind that contradictions do not exist in reality, but only in the minds of people who do not think clearly.  His name was Aristotle.  Much of human history since his time has involved futile attempts to disprove the Aristotelian Law of Contradiction; and ALL political philosophy has involved the futile attempts to ‘put a smiley face’ on the notion of Government.  The notion of Government is riddled through and through with lethal contradictions (which Aristotle himself did not understand).  Political philosophy is the ‘garbage in’ which causes most of the ‘garbage out’ of history.  Government, by its nature, is the rule of the victors over the vanquished.  Substituting the ballot for the bullet changes nothing.  Today the victors are exploiting the vanquished as they always have; political insiders are exploiting political outsiders as they always have.  The evidence, as always, is overwhelming.  But we have been ‘dumbed down’ by the Government miseducations we have received; virtually no one understands the fundamental problem.  See my post in the Section 20 forum: The Fundamental Problem.

Government is ALWAYS a parasite upon the Marketplace.  When the parasite foolishly overwhelms its host–as the Soviets overwhelmed the Russian people and many others–then it perishes.  But when the parasite is aware that it is indeed a parasite and must not kill its host, it then sucks some but not all of its host’s blood; the parasite can survive indefinitely, as long as the host does not believe that the parasite IS indeed a parasite.  Thus, there is always a tension between Government and the Marketplace: Government is forever trying to increase its parasitism while not crippling the ability of its host to keep living and producing.

Chris has done a magnificent job with this website and the Crash Course.  But he has not addressed the fundamental problem: the existence of the philosophically flawed paradigm of social organization known as Government. This is evident in his recommendation of the books of David Cay Johnston.  Johnston is an apologist for Power; he complains that the tax system ‘favors’ the wealthy.  Absolute rubbish.  Taxation is legalized theft.  The wealthy have learned how to avoid the theft better than others.  For this they are to be pilloried?

The Johnston mindset still believes the assertion of Oliver Wendell Holmes that "Taxes are the price we pay for civilization."  Again, absolute rubbish.  Again, taxation is legalized theft.  Taxes are the price we pay for not understanding the nature of civilization–and the true nature of Government.

The Government miseducations we have received have put all of us inside a ‘political box.’  The whole damn system is now coming apart before our very eyes.  The time to UNDERSTAND the box is NOW.   Come on, people: OUT OF THE BOX!

 

  • Tue, Oct 28, 2008 - 05:47pm

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Damn! 

Thanks for the excellent posts you guys! I’m glad to see there are other like-minded people out there. Most of the people I talk to look at me like I have two heads if I say something like…..maybe there is "some" manipulation in the stock markets? I don’t dare bring up more info than that like discussed here. I’ll be labeled a radical and who knows….maybe I’ll disappear. I’m already paranoid enough about posting this type of talk on a blog. What if TPTB start trolling to get our names and IP addresses, find out where we live and then…..maybe off to some FEMA camp when things get chaotic.

As for me, they better be well-armed, that’s all I have to say!

6 weeks ago my wife caught me looking at a bulk food website about buying some 50lb bags of beans and rice, etc. She told me I was a nut and to stop reading all the financial blogs. I’ve been reading Chris, Mish, Roubini, Denninger, et al, for a long time.

 

I just think I’m trying to keep up to speed because the MSM sucks and I don’t like their flavor of koolaid. 

  • Tue, Oct 28, 2008 - 05:48pm

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http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ opened my eyes. I agree – this is all a made-up crisis – all a plan.

========= the End Game is Ours ====

One of the areas I studied was Dark Matter and theorized that Dark Matter was an un-detectable substance (since it was the smallest matter – what material could detect something smaller than itself?)

My answer is – it can only be detected when it moved in unison. So, I began to look for instances where "unison movement or patterns from dark matter" appeared.

One of the possible examples I found was – the Shroud of Turin. Taking away the arguement of "who it was" left the undeniable truth that whenever it "materialized" in the 14th – 16th century – x-ray technology did not exist.

So, in theory, this is proof that "something leaves the body" (most likely at the time of death). 

Though this does not alone promise that our spirit lives after death, it does show an "organized pattern" existed and may exist after death.

I have believed in re-incarnation most of my life and this re-affirmed that belief. I also believe that when enough people project an "energy" on  others – that it can be a determining factor of where in the next life they "end up".

So, with that in mind, plese –  join me in projecting–> that those who wish to govern over others with ill intent and project their will on us with the intent to enslave us, that those of greed and immoral intent — may they all be reborn as the lowly donkey for as many lifetimes as they have inflicted suffering on or stolen from.

So with the news of each passing of a rothchild, cheney, morgan, bush, opec member, or other ill willed individual – say a prayer for them to be cleansed and whisper quietly "be reborn – jack ass" and the world will soon rid of the lot of them. Collectively we can make the End Game Ours.

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  • Tue, Oct 28, 2008 - 10:52pm

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    I will predict now that shortly

I will predict now that shortly somewhere, somehow we will have an uprising. It may be in America, and it already has happened overseas with demonstrations. If that uprising is not large, armed and strong enough, it will be crushed to set an example.

 

 

 

 

  • Tue, Oct 28, 2008 - 11:36pm

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    maybe there is “some” manipulation in the stock markets

You said-

maybe there is "some" manipulation in the stock markets

That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. SOME does not even come close. I would say well over 50% of the market is manipulated from any number of ways, including insider information, phantom short selling, rumor, margin trading, media reporting and so on. Label me a radical if you want, but the market is definitely manipulated all the time.

Look at today’s gigantic rally! It’s a joke! These bloodsuckers like the MM’s and Hedge fund managers are trying to suck blood out of a bloodless corpse, and people are falling for it.

Read about some of the history of the stock market’s big crash and following depression. This manipulation has been going on forever. When trading on margin was created, it made a lot of people wealthy. That is, the people who controlled the margin calls.

 

 

 

 

 

  • Wed, Dec 17, 2008 - 09:45am

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    Re: The Governments Grand Plan

Still have something on my mind

What about the other countries? I’m from Canada (a frenchie), back from a 2 month trip in China. Lets say the US gov is planning something, lets say they destroy the american dollar, the financial system collapse. What is the plan or what will happen of the rest of the planet, the other 6 billion people?If it’s a plan, the must have though about it. They cannot fight with China for energy along with their own, US, population at the same time for example

While I admit  it looks plausible that this not 100% due to idiots manoeuvring the system, I just dont see to what extend they want to seize control. To control what? The US population? Who will control it? The US govt? What if other countries loosing their debt (China!)are not happy? They want to seize gold or whatever by force? The US population is a mix from people from everywhere, there are indians, chinese, canadians in your govt, in your army. Ahhh there is just something wrong there. The wold is too much linked together.

 It just doesn’t make sens that it’s a plan to take over the US, the plan is too big, impacting too many countries and it doesn’t make sense it’s for a plan for a world control… think russia, china… we can’t rule them out altogether at the same time

 What do you think?

  • Wed, Dec 17, 2008 - 12:42pm

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To Carlos and others:

For more info on the Plan, do a google search on the
Georgia Guidestones. I believe they contain the "outer
mysteries" of the end game. I.e. the part of the plan they are
willing to share. The "inner mysteries" can only be guessed
at.

Revolt will further their plans on bringing the world
population within manageable proportion. The first goal of the new
world order will be to destabilize our civilization. This will cause
war, revolt, death and suffering. The surviving people will accept
the new rules and exchange freedom for safety.

There is very little we can do about this. Only be prepared, have food and fuel, have good neighbours, be able to shelter for months on end and most important: stay well below radar. Do not attract attention.

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