The Four E's including E.T.
Would like to use this thread as a repository for legitimate info about the ufo phenomenon which is heating has been heating up for the last couple of years.
I sense we have to prepare for an uncertain future in more ways than just the three E’s. And regardless of what any individual’s ‘opinion’ is on the subject, it is clear the military and many leading edge scientists are taking the subject seriously. This has likely always been the case covertly but is now an overt reality. The story is being covered as legitimate, minus the giggle screen by the New York Times, for example.
This doesn’t mean that honest reporters have finally triumphed over the machinations of convergent government and media information suppression. It seems that a new chapter is upon all of us, not just those who have studied this for years. There is a realization that Yes, the phenomenon is real.
However, the military industrial complex will spin it to suit their needs to gain supremacy in space, to gain an edge in global payment systems that require advanced satellite systems…etc…
And it will also be a useful tool to control a population as nothing is more empowering to the military than a vague threat that allows a population’s imaginations to run wild, coupled with the idea that the military, with enough funding can gain an edge. The idea of an overpowering and immediate existential threat will close social divisions and render the populace docile.
The story of the Nimitz tic tac ufos has been around and on youtube for over a decade. Why is it being taken seriously by the military, in an overt fashion, now?
It’s important, in my view, to be mentally prepared for a future that may include something as bizarre as the future president, say Pence, for example, establishing a Christian evangelical military theocracy in the U.S and then announcing to the world that we risk being invaded and that the inhabitants of ufos are demonic.
This is one of many possible outcomes, all of which we have to be mentally and emotionally prepared for, because it looks very much like the groundwork is being laid here.
Anyway, these are my thoughts, fwiw. And here are some links.
From the Atlantic Magazine:
“Such a project, the report says in effect, would be a waste of time and money.” (Project Blue Book–1960’s)
Future generations at the Pentagon thought differently. From 2007 to 2012, the Department of Defense operated a top-secret, $22 million program dedicated to investigating UFO reports, known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. The New York Times revealed its existence in a jaw-dropping story in 2017. “The program produced documents that describe sightings of aircraft that seemed to move at very high velocities with no visible signs of propulsion, or that hovered with no apparent means of lift,” the Times reported.
From the New Yorker:
And another–why now?
Common mistake, I’m sure…There is a New York magazine with same font as the New Yorker. Articles here are from the New York magazine.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by agitating prop.
Want to give this a bit of a bump in hopes members will take a look at it.
They have definitely been upping the perceived legitimacy of the UFO phenomenon in recent years so you know something is up there. In my mind and from my studies, there’s absolutely no doubt about the existence of such things. The question for me is which ones are from clandestine human technology, which ones are from aliens, and which one are from trans-dimensional entities. There is some evidence for each of these.
BUT the chance of Pence establishing an evangelical Christian theocracy? About the same as Donald Trump and Nancy Pelosi becoming lovers and deciding to form an American monarchy with him king and her queen.
BUT the chance of Pence establishing an evangelical Christian theocracy? About the same as Donald Trump and Nancy Pelosi becoming lovers and deciding to form an American monarchy with him king and her queen. — AO
Note AO, that I claimed we had to be ready for something bizarre and used that as one example of numerous possibilities–though I find the idea of the two of them locked in monarchic embrace compelling! LOL
As far as the craft spotted by pilots near the Nimitz, it was almost surely not anything earthly. As for whether these things are transdimensional or extraterrestrial– there’s a possibility that these classifications collapse or coalesce once a certain level of technical sophistication is reached.
Academia slowly coming around.
Time to give this a bump. There was a rider attached to the stimulus bill that required the pentagon to give up info it had on ufos.
There is definitely something going on there but its exact nature is unknown and may remain unknowable.
However, the military will use the newly released info to increase their budgets. There is also a desire to remain ahead of the game, space wise, with China and Russia.
How will the pentagon justify their huge budgets, let alone increases, when so much is required in other areas?
From the New York Times
By Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean
July 23, 2020
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Despite Pentagon statements that it disbanded a once-covert program to investigate unidentified flying objects, the effort remains underway — renamed and tucked inside the Office of Naval Intelligence, where officials continue to study mystifying encounters between military pilots and unidentified aerial vehicles.
Pentagon officials will not discuss the program, which is not classified but deals with classified matters. Yet it appeared last month in a Senate committee report outlining spending on the nation’s intelligence agencies for the coming year. The report said the program, the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force, was “to standardize collection and reporting” on sightings of unexplained aerial vehicles, and was to report at least some of its findings to the public within 180 days after passage of the intelligence authorization act.
While retired officials involved with the effort — including Harry Reid, the former Senate majority leader — hope the program will seek evidence of vehicles from other worlds, its main focus is on discovering whether another nation, especially any potential adversary, is using breakout aviation technology that could threaten the United States.
Senator Marco Rubio, the Florida Republican who is the acting chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, told a CBS affiliate in Miami this month that he was primarily concerned about reports of unidentified aircraft over American military bases — and that it was in the government’s interest to find out who was responsible.
China and Russia sign off on cooperative venture to explore the moon, March 2021
The joint announcement by China and Russia on Tuesday has the potential to scramble the geopolitics of space exploration, once again setting up competing programs and goals for the scientific and, potentially, commercial exploitation of the moon. This time, though, the main players will be the United States and China, with Russia as a supporting player.
In recent years, China has made huge advances in space exploration, putting its own astronauts in orbit and sending probes to the moon and to Mars. It has effectively drafted Russia as a partner in missions that it has already planned, outpacing a Russian program that has stalled in recent years.
Lots of lateral thinking to enjoy in this area.
I remember Karl Denninger freaking out a few years back about humans building a big antanna to send radio signals out in the hopes of alerting aliens to our existence. He figured anything that could pick it up was realistically way more advanced than us and anything that could get here would have its way with us even worse than the Europeans did with the North American natives.
The woo guy (Clif High) has pointed out that if they are here and friendly then humanity is just gonna end up a cargo cult waiting on cool new toys rather than solving ourown problems.
Furthermore, any admission of aliens (a real admission or a bullshit theater production done for other reasons) would mean the govt admits they’ve been lying for 50 years about the most important thing to ever happen to humanity. After watching the public react to Expert Flailing on Covid Im not convinced this will cause the complete mental breakdown of the species that Clif does, but his latest youtube called Woo Man Chew has all kinds of outsider thinking on what this would do to academia which has a symbiotic relationship with the state.
Good points, Wott,
Cliff High is way too radical in most areas for me to take him seriously, but his thoughts you posted above made me laugh.
Jacques Vallee is interesting on this topic. His idea that whatever it is represents some kind of control system (and certainly the very non-standard type, to say the least!) is closer to my estimation of this form of intelligence.
There are huge and highly significant areas for lateral thinking. Definitely. And approaching it from a multi-disciplinary perspective. From there, those interested will be able to branch out and create novel areas of classification and categorization. Right now, there are two prevailing categories. Nuts and bolts or transdimensional. That could turn out to be very limited.
The other limiting factor is how do you study something that is likely dominant in the mental environment and posssibly studying scientists that are studying it. It could be very easy for “them” to establish false conceptual paradigms that lead researchers up blind allies, every time they try to get a handle on ‘it.’
If there has been a decades long cover up, I have the feeling, it has a bit to do with that.