The Complete Idiot’s Guide to the New World Order

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  • Sat, Feb 28, 2009 - 02:22am

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joe2 – I agree 100%

I think the citizen investigative groups have worked out most of the coarse detail of what happened on 9-11 – that the towers and building 7 were brought down by explosive demolition. This is the simplest explanation, fits the known facts from video evidence and eyewitness testimony and has been corroborated by chemical analysis of the dust that is full of chemical residue from the explosives used.

Unanswered remain who precisely the perpetrators were and what plans are pending. Cheney suggested nuclear or biological attack a month or two ago…

  • Sat, Feb 28, 2009 - 04:32am

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Call me a blind old fool if you will, but my take on all these conspiracy theories is simply this:

Based on all the posts above, there would have to be tons of people all over the world involved in these conspiracies.

To suggest that every last one of these people has managed to keep all these secrets for all these years is to beggar belief (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beggar_belief)! Sealed

Sorry, but I’m not buying it!

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I for one don’t believe any of these 9/11 conspiracies.  The building could easily have come down from the impacts.  The combined energies of the impact itself, the explosions, the fuel burning….  to me it all adds up.  Once the many thousands of tons of the upper floors started moving, the kinetic energy in them could never have been resisted by a building designed to take static loads as opposed to dynamic ones.

What I DO believe is that the Bush administration KNEW something was up, they were just too incompetent to know what.  When the planes were hijacked, they let the drama unfold, to give them a reason to do everything they did.  How can anyone forget the GUILTY look on Bush’s face (as seen in Farenheit 911) when he’s told about the first plane hitting the first tower…. You can tell he’s thinking "oh shit, I hope this doesn’t go pear shaped…"  and then he does nothing for SEVEN MINUTES?

Don’t give these guys too much credit….  they’re all IDIOTS!

Mike 

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You beat me to it Sam….

By now, someone in the know would have made MILLIONS spilling the beans….

Mike 

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Thing is, when good men do nothing. This is how evil persists and continues.

  Just like Roswell, when your family is threatened, you shut up. Look at how all these old airforce guys are coming out of the wood work, now that they are on their death beds. No longer afraid of the threats. When they can threaten your family, pension or have some blackmail on your-you better believe they can shut you up. Have you ever been threatened-I have, and it makes you think much differently about your next move.

  As far as your asserstion that everyone has kept quite, if that were true, we wouldn’t have these videos in the first place! We wouldn’t have this site or any other info out there about UFO’s, presidental assinations, 911. I suggest you start diggin a little deeper. You might just find out that there is more than you ever realized. But those in power control most of the press, but haven’t yet managed to conquer the internet. Not yet anyway. I hope everyone who reads this makes keeping the internet free from governmental and corporate control a high priority. As this is the last free source of information we have. 

 My own view of 911 is that it was stand down and let happen. There is to much out there to say it is all just conspiracy theory. Bush has his agenda from day one in office to invade Iraq and he took any opportunity to make it happen. If you threaten the establishment your likely to die or be discredited.  Don’t underestimate the power of fear. It works for corporations and governments around the world. If you know about the military, it is on a need to know bases. That means, you only know just enough to do your job. Very few on the top know what is really happening…………… 

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You beat me to it Sam….

By now, someone in the know would have made MILLIONS spilling the beans….

Mike 

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But, Mike – those guys in the black helicopter snatched him before he could spill those beans. Now he’s pushing up daises somewhere in the heartland, don’t you know!  Wink

  • Sat, Feb 28, 2009 - 05:12am

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It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who have no idea about the 3rd building to collapse on 9/11, Building 7. I have spoken to a many individuals about the events of 9/11 and have come to the conclusion that a majority of them are only interested in their daily dose of American Idol, Monster Trucks and the NFL. I have all but given up on trying to awaken people to the events of 9/11 after receiving so many "eye rolls" and "your crazy if you think our government would do that to its own citizenry". How can anyone watch the video of that building go down and not realize that:

1) fires burning for a few hours on a couple floors couldn’t cause a catastrophic failure such as that

2) in order for it to fall straight down ALL of the lower supporting columns have to fail within 1/10th of a second.

3) How could it miss the Verizon building and the US Post office building 75 feet away on either side? That 547 foot structure went STRAIGHT DOWN!

I worked as a structural steel designer for several years at one point, albeit not an engineer, but come on folks that building had to be brought down by controlled demolition.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3898962504721899003&ei=NsKoSaSSJaL8qAOUrIGmDA&q=building+7&hl=en

98% of the people of the US are unaware of anything outside of their little box and even if you try to unplug them from the matrix they will ignore the obvious. I have found the same difficulty finding any awareness with subjects such as peak oil and the ideals expressed on this website. I now seek out like minded individuals and am more focused on trying to make sure me and my family can get out of the way when TSHTF. I hope this doesn’t come across the wrong way but I think the following is actually an accurate reflection of the general public:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=are+americans+stupid&hl=en&emb=0#

  • Sat, Feb 28, 2009 - 05:26am

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Thing is, when good men do nothing. This is how evil persists and continues.

Just like Roswell, when your family is threatened, you shut up. Look at how all these old airforce guys are coming out of the wood work, now that they are on their death beds. No longer afraid of the threats. When they can threaten your family, pension or have some blackmail on your-you better believe they can shut you up. Have you ever been threatened-I have, and it makes you think much differently about your next move.

As far as your asserstion that everyone has kept quite, if that were true, we wouldn’t have these videos in the first place! We wouldn’t have this site or any other info out there about UFO’s, presidental assinations, 911. I suggest you start diggin a little deeper. You might just find out that there is more than you ever realized. But those in power control most of the press, but haven’t yet managed to conquer the internet. Not yet anyway. I hope everyone who reads this makes keeping the internet free from governmental and corporate control a high priority. As this is the last free source of information we have. 

My own view of 911 is that it was stand down and let happen. There is to much out there to say it is all just conspiracy theory. Bush has his agenda from day one in office to invade Iraq and he took any opportunity to make it happen. If you threaten the establishment your likely to die or be discredited.  Don’t underestimate the power of fear. It works for corporations and governments around the world. If you know about the military, it is on a need to know bases. That means, you only know just enough to do your job. Very few on the top know what is really happening…………… 

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investorzzo,

Re your very first two sentences, I absolutely agree.

As for the rest – sorry.

Re Roswell – you can’t seriously believe that "TPTB" have managed to keep the lid on for 61 years!  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_incident)

Re presidential assassinations – "In the history of the presidency, four presidents have actually died
from assassination. Another six were the subject of assassination
attempts." (http://americanhistory.about.com/od/uspresidents/a/assassinations.htm)

Do you seriously think every one of them was a conspiracy? If so, you
should go back and study American history.

Re 911 – "By November 2008 there were around 150,000,000 web pages dedicated to 9/11 conspiracy theories." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories)

If you know about the military, it is on a need to know bases. That
means, you only know just enough to do your job. Very few on the top
know what is really happening…………..

I’ve been in the military (USAF). From your remarks, it appears that you are suggesting a mid-to-upper level military conspiracy since you say "Very few on the top
know what is really happening………….."

Are you suggesting a secret cabal of U.S. military officers were somehow responsible for 911? Aw, c’mon! (Uh,oh – I may have just started yet another 911 conspiracy story!)

p.s – Please use spell-check before you post. Thank you.

  • Sat, Feb 28, 2009 - 05:29am

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The trouble with conspiracy theories is there never seems to be a smoking gun that proves it.

However, what is much worse to me was how the whole 9/11 situation was openly used by Bush for his own agenda in Iraq and not enough politicians stood up to say it like it was.

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I don’t think "tons" of people were needed. That said, to believe the official story one needs to accept a series of events that range from the improbable to the impossible. That a few men with no practical experience flying commercial aircraft could successfully take over and fly them to their intended targets, including one within protected airspace while the most sophisticated defense system in the world had no response – in defiance of standard proceedures for interception of wayward aircraft that are routinely exercised – is highly improbable.

That three steel and concrete buildings could disintegrate into dust as a result of fires that they were designed to withstand is simply impossible. The towers had been specifically designed to withstand the impact of a large commercial airliner and the resulting fires. The official explanation for this is that steel floor supports sagged from heat and pulled free from the building core allowing the upper portion of the building to fall and progressively crush the building below into dust. This scenario is physically impossible for many reasons – the core columns remained intact, there is insufficient energy generated to produce this type of collapse, etc – and is not what is documented in the many videos of the collapses. In the videos one can see the upper portions simply disintegrate into dust before any impact on the lower portion of the structure. Material is explosively ejected in a progressive fashion as the lower floors disintegrate into dust. Despite the fact that the planes impacted the towers differently – causing different patterns of damage – and at different heights, both collapsed in nearly identical fashion. Building 7, which suffered minimal damage compared to other nearby structures, collapsed in an identical fashion – one entirely consistent with explosive demolition and in defiance of any other known mechanism of collapse.

The dust from the collapse of these buildings is full of the by products of a particular type of explosive specifically suited for this type of demolition.

The official explanation was offered almost immediately – before any evidence had been examined or any investigation begun. In fact, the area was locked down and the evidence systematically destroyed prior to investigation. All subsequent investigation was done in secrecy, and when completed simply restated the original explanation. No one was punished for this unprecedented act of terror and breach of security – however, numerous whistle blowers who raised doubts about the official story were punished.

The following article examines the official collapse theory:

http://heiwaco.tripod.com/nist3.htm

 

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