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  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 03:01pm

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    Swiss getting disarmed at last?

This is following a side-discussion in another thread, where strabes raised the point of Switzerland being an armed society thus less prone to society control etc. 

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/02/24/switzerland.gun.army.referendum/index.html

It seems that they currently can have guns but no ammo (which is a bit pointless, isn’t it?) but soon even this will have to stored in the barracks. So it seems NWO is working on all fronts to ensure we are all helpless subjects. 

  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 03:24pm

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    Re: Swiss getting disarmed at last?

Funny,

Happening right after Swiss gnomes screwed up their currency.

However, U.S. stats (no url handy,sorry) do show weapon in home is 2x more likely to be used for suicide than self defense. It’s like the bible, though, you can probably find a statement to support whatever you want to do.

 

SG

  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 04:43pm

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    Re: Swiss getting disarmed at last?

Nime – thanks for bringing this up.  I think your comments and concerns are right on the mark!

  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 06:25pm

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    Re: Swiss getting disarmed at last?

A great way to treat the symptoms: People are depressed and committing suicide, so let’s remove guns.

Absolutely ridiculous. We’re rapidly approaching the end of the Road to Serfdom.

My question has always been: if the People’s guns are removed, then someone must have guns to enforce order on the people. This generally means national military in the end game of a Police State scenario.

So…what side of the fence does the American military fall on??? Let’s not forget the Stanford prison experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment), Nuremberg Trials ("just following orders"), or Tiananmen Square. If this global personal disarmament trend continues, do we really have evidence to believe that our liberty will survive in any way, shape, or form?

 

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    Re: Swiss getting disarmed at last?

Don’t worry, I don’t want to disarm anyone but bad guys.

SG

  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 08:16pm

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    Re: Swiss getting disarmed at last?

The problem is who defines "bad" guy?  It will soon be defined as any individualist who wants to maintain his 2nd amendment right.  The police/military went after plenty of such "bad" guys in New Orleans (even an old woman who happened to be holding her pistol when the cops came to her house…they pounced on her and beat her to a pulp).

So that article is bad news.  The arrogance of the elite is so disgusting.  Some are just arrogant utopians who think their gene pool is better than the masses who don’t carry Prada bags.  Others are duplicitous and really only want disarmament so they can dominate and take control.  But I don’t think it will be that easy to disarm the Swiss.  If the powers that be think it’s going to be that easy, they have some bad news coming.  They take this issue very seriously.  See this video and read the description on the right…a population that is cool with guys strapping their assault rifles on their back while riding through town is a right-minded population, as opposed to the sheep in the US who would call the cops on this guy riding his bike…

This shows how important it is to control the elite vs. the other way around because they will do everything they can to oppress the masses.  The Swiss should put in tougher immigration laws to test rich people’s political views before they allow them to move into their country!  Cool   It’s too late now given the haven Switzerland already is for people who think they’re better than people with less money, less refinement.  But if I ever have the privilege of running such a country, big-minded elites will be shipped out.

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    Re: Swiss getting disarmed at last?

Uh,

I meant felons.

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  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 10:16pm

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    Re: Swiss getting disarmed at last?

Hey Cape,

Even "felon" can be a misleading term.
Practically, the "control" aspect of any given subject is faulty by design, and cannot deter possession.

A felon could be a guy who put his brother in a headlock and got charged with Assault 4 DV.
Is he really a bad guy, or is he a prior service Marine with a upstanding record, a decent job and a life?

Drugs, guns, speech, fast cars, whatever – banning possession is almost always a matter of subjectivity, and no matter what the conditions of the legislation, always restricts only those who follow the law.

Laws should be few, meaningful and enforceable.
The system of "ad hoc" and subjective law that we have in America today is a joke.

Just a few thoughts from a unabashed libertarian.
Once the world goes to hell, we’ll be able to say "See, told ya so." 😉

Cheers!

Aaron

  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 10:26pm

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Cape – "Felon" is a political term…defined by politicians…elitists who go to elitist law schools.  Under FDR people who owned gold became felons.  Under most regimes people who own weapons become felons.  That will soon be the case in the US.  Then "good" cops just doing their duty will need to consider them the "bad" guys, according to your passive stance to let politicians determine for you what is good vs bad.

 

  • Tue, Feb 24, 2009 - 11:06pm

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    Re: Swiss getting disarmed at last?

[quote=strabes]

So that article is bad news.  [/quote]

I agree. I just realized my subject does make it seem as if I was glad they will be disarmed. 

I also, again, think you overestimate them. While you are right they have tight immigration laws much of the NWO agenda has filtered through to their mentality and legal system already. Note also that they can’t keep ammo in their homes already – which makes the arms they’re still allowed to keep useles. If they accepted that keeping arms at the barracks will be logical next step. We’ll see. 

[quote=strabes]

But if I ever have the privilege of running such a country, big-minded elites will be shipped out.[/quote]

Do you have any plans in this area? 🙂

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