Swine flu outbreak- cases reported in California, Texas, New York and Kansas

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  • Wed, Apr 29, 2009 - 11:57am

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    Re: Swine flu outbreak- cases reported in California, …

Data so far points to a mortality rate around 1%. I hope we get some details soon about what mechanism is causing the deaths – the virus itself, pneumonia, ARDS, or what? It has implications for preventative measures and treatment.

For example, sambucol (elderberry extract) is likely to reduce one’s chance of getting the flu in the first place, but if the main reason for mortaility is that the virus triggers a cytokine storm resulting in ARDS, then sambucol would be likely to increase mortality in the event of catching the flu, since it increases cytokine production.

  • Wed, Apr 29, 2009 - 12:03pm

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LogansRun I don’t think those half-mask filters are any more longlived than the disposable ones – they are both comprised of the same material. When they get wet through breathing they start to lose effectiveness.

With a re-usable half mask unless you diinfect it at the end of every day it is not going to protect properly, and may introduce the virus into your home if you disinfect it indoors. Given that the major expense is the filters whether you use disposable or re-usable masks, it seems to make sense to go with disposables, unless the half mask gives you a much better fit.

  • Fri, May 01, 2009 - 03:01am

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    Looks like the prognosis is getting worse…

Wow… Over the last few days I was starting to get the impression this would "blow over" and that initial fears had been exaggerated.

But this morning’s (May 1) South China Morning Post had the front page completely covered with articles saying that advancement to pandemic status is looking "more and more imminent", and a separate article inside warned that when (they are no longer saying "if" this spreads to SE Asia, the virus is likely to "merge" with H5N1 bird flu, potentially creating an "Armageddon Virus" that would be as communicable as swine flu and as deadly as avian flu.

What’s being reported back in the states? Here in Asia, the MSM is definitely saying this is getting worse not better. Although I was the only person wearing a mask on my flight (and the subsequent subway ride) on Wednesday, by last night (Thursday night), almost 1/4 of the people on the subway were wearing masks, and the paper reports that drug stores are now sold out of N95 masks throughout Hong Kong.

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  • Fri, May 01, 2009 - 03:19am

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[quote]What’s being reported back in the states? Here in Asia, the MSM is definitely saying this is getting worse not better. Although I was the only person wearing a mask on my flight (and the subsequent subway ride) on Wednesday, by last night (Thursday night), almost 1/4 of the people on the subway were wearing masks, and the paper reports that drug stores are now sold out of N95 masks throughout Hong Kong.[/quote]

Pretty much the same, without the addition of avian, but with the addition of it could disappear to reappear in the flu season with greater virulence. It’s starting to wear thin though (at least with the people I speak with), since yes it seems to be highly communicable, but as yet there are no deaths originating anywhere but Mexico, and everyone seems to be getting a little wise too (or it could be the people that I work with) who have identified that confirmed cases and actual cases are likely vastly different and diverging.

Of course a Pandemic is not really anything to do with mortality rates, and everything to do with communicability.

 

 

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LogansRun I don’t think those half-mask filters are any more longlived than the disposable ones – they are both comprised of the same material. When they get wet through breathing they start to lose effectiveness.

With a re-usable half mask unless you diinfect it at the end of every day it is not going to protect properly, and may introduce the virus into your home if you disinfect it indoors. Given that the major expense is the filters whether you use disposable or re-usable masks, it seems to make sense to go with disposables, unless the half mask gives you a much better fit.

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Scepticus,

Actually the half masks will last either 40 hours or 30 days, whichever comes first.  So do the P100 Resperators that look like masks.  Disinfecting the inside after each use is a smart thing to do.  The half masks are only $8 apiece and the filters with the highest rating (amonia, oil, chlorine, Hydrochloric, etc…fumes) came out at $15 per set of 2.  That’s $23 a month/or 40 hours.  More than pays for itself IMO. 

Check them out and then go to 3M’s site to do the research.  I honestly don’t think we’ll need them for this scare as I think it’s overhyped.  But, I’ll have them for whatever comes our way next. 

 

  • Sun, May 03, 2009 - 09:29pm

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    Re: Swine flu outbreak- cases reported in California, …

Here is a you tube video poo pooing the seriousness of swine flu and includes one of the theories for why it kills Mexicans but not other cutures – it has to do with the gluten molecule on the virus.  Mexicans are not used to having gluten as part of their staple diet so are less tolerant to it.   Scottish may be more susceptible as genetically they are used to potato starch not a gluten based grain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlIiP40_rvI

Anyway, food for thought.  Excuse the pun.

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