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Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran build nuclear bomb.” War drums are beating faster.

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  • Sun, Oct 04, 2009 - 10:42am

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    Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran build nuclear bomb.” War drums are beating faster.

The war drums are increasing their tempo, and the media is headlining the issues, but from whose perspective? We know the mainstream media is controlled by a very few elites. We know their power to control the masses, and the question is; are we receiving all the facts or are we being manipulated for some secretive purpose?

Today’s headline in the ‘World news’ section of the TimesOnLine is:

Israel names Russians helping Iran build nuclear bomb (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/)

As always our choices are to become informed or not, and be passive or active around the issues. Personally, I am opposed to war, death and destruction, and offer some further links with info that we are not receiving in the media spotlight.

John Pilger recently pointed out:  

“In 2001, the Observer in London published a series of reports that claimed an “Iraqi connection” to al-Qaeda, even describing the base in Iraq where the training of terrorists took place and a facility where anthrax was being manufactured as a weapon of mass destruction. It was all false. Supplied by US intelligence and Iraqi exiles, planted stories in the British and US media helped George Bush and Tony Blair to launch an illegal invasion which caused, according to the most recent study, 1.3 million deaths.

Something similar is happening over Iran: the same syncopation of government and media “revelations”, the same manufacture of a sense of crisis. “Showdown looms with Iran over secret nuclear plant”, declared the Guardian on 26 September. “Showdown” is the theme. High noon. The clock ticking. Good versus evil………”

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info

And in today’s website, ‘WhatReallyHappened.com, comes the following response to the Times article quoted above:

Israel is getting desperate to sell this new war for Americans to be killed and crippled in.

Here is a recap of what they are trying to make you forget.
1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington’s chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.
2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.
4. Iran’s formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.
5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.
6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran’s announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran’s notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel’s claims to “know” that Iran is a nuclear threat.

7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel’s clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.
9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel’s bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.
10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as “Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.
We all need to be Joe Wilson right now. We need to stand up and scream, “LIAR!” at every politician and every talking media moron that is pushing this war in Iran. And we need to keep dong it until they get the message that we will not be deceived any more.

Israel wants to send your kids off to die in Iran, and YOU are the only one that can stop them.
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  • Sun, Oct 04, 2009 - 02:48pm

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    Re: Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran …

The bizarre thing is that most people seem to have forgotten that Iraq was attacked over false claims that they had WMDs.  It seems obvious that bush and his neocon administration purposely misled the world in fabricating yellow cakes and other lies.  We should have had a full investigation and if bush was lying, he should have been impeached and tried for treason along with his PNAC buddies.

The major problem in the U.S., there is no accountability.  Part of the reason is that our media, music, movies and newspapers are almost all owned by corporate conglomerates that are controlled by the private federal reserve and the international banking cartel.  The media is a propaganda machine and congress is just as corrupt.  “Sen. Dick Durbin, blurted out an obvious truth about Congress that, despite being blindingly obvious, is rarely spoken: “And the banks — hard to believe in a time when we’re facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created — are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And they frankly own the place.”

Notice that there is absolutely no news coverage reminding us about the Iraqi debacle and the reasons why congress alone has the authority to wage war.  And, your links about Israel’s refusal to comply with the IAEA should be front page news.  Why aren’t we suggesting sanctions against Israel?

Speaking of war, Ten American troops were killed at the weekend in two surprise attacks that caused alarm in Nato’s US-led coalition.  Would someone please remind the war mongers that the U.S. is insolvent, we can’t afford anymore imperial wars.  Does anyone at the pentagon take their constitutional oath seriously?  How long will they lead young American’s to their death in unconstitutional wars?

Larry

  • Sun, Oct 04, 2009 - 03:55pm

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    Re: Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran …

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And in today’s website, ‘WhatReallyHappened.com, comes the following response to the Times article quoted above:

Israel is getting desperate to sell this new war for Americans to be killed and crippled in.

Here is a recap of what they are trying to make you forget.
1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington’s chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.
2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.
4. Iran’s formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.
5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.
6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran’s announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran’s notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel’s claims to “know” that Iran is a nuclear threat.

7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel’s clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.
9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel’s bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.
10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as “Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.
We all need to be Joe Wilson right now. We need to stand up and scream, “LIAR!” at every politician and every talking media moron that is pushing this war in Iran. And we need to keep dong it until they get the message that we will not be deceived any more.

Israel wants to send your kids off to die in Iran, and YOU are the only one that can stop them.
Please forward this comment to your social networks.

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Here’s the link to said article at whatreallyhappened.com:  http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/IranvIsrael.php

 

  • Sun, Oct 04, 2009 - 04:40pm

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    Re: Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran …

As always, great comments DrKrbyLuv, and thank you, C1oudfire, for keeping me honest 🙂

  • Sun, Oct 04, 2009 - 06:24pm

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    Re: Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran …

The world is NOT against Israel.

It just APPEARS to be against her.

As it must.

  • Mon, Oct 05, 2009 - 07:03am

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    Re: Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran …

Morpheus wrote,

The world is NOT against Israel. It just APPEARS to be against her. As it must.

Found an encouraging website, ‘Jewish Voice For Peace’

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  • Mon, Oct 05, 2009 - 01:15pm

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    Re: Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran …

Hmmm . . .

Some interesting jockeying in the Middle East, of late . . . Control of key oil fields and spiritual centers are at stake . .  Control, indeed . . . Arguably, these are the two most powerful agents for control of the world’s population . . . . This is one area where the stakes are astronomically high . . . control of the planet itself . . .  the very best “players” are at the chess board, and the illusions are quite complex . . . Illusions within illusions . . . The first key is to watch the outcomes, not the words or policies . . . and then to ask, “Who benefits?”  The outcomes will be carefully orchestrated, as always, to appear to be an organic outgrowth of public demand . . . Israel may appear to be the instigator (that’s the second layer . . . Boogey Man Iran, being the first layer), and indeed, she’s far from innocent, but I’ll wager that she’s only a pawn, to be sacrificed to protect the king . . .

Simplistic thinking and emotional reactivity will not reveal the truth of the Middle East conundrum . . . Only fools will grasp for the easy answer . . . But, there’s an abundance of them to draw from . . . . Lesser fools will scapegoat the second layer, Israel,  . . .  in their arrogance, failing to consider that there are those who are clever enough to have set multiple layers of traps  . . .  The second key is not to hold on to any notion that one fully understands the situation . . . to be willing to discard ideas that do not fully explain the outcomes . . . 

Even so, it is likely that the reward for one’s effort will only be the ability to watch the “game” with full understanding of the stakes, strategies, and outcome  . . .  The outcome is preordained  . . .  though the hour may be postponed  . . .  Nonetheless, it is an occupation worth engaging in . . .  The unexamined life is not worth living (Socrates) . . .  I couldn’t agree more . . . and we can all see our reflections in Destiny’s play in the Middle East . . .

 

  • Mon, Oct 05, 2009 - 05:51pm

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    Re: Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran …

How about adding this into the mix!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.html

  • Mon, Oct 05, 2009 - 06:02pm

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    Re: Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran …

brit –

Interesting find. 

If memory serves me correctly, historians were able to determine that Hitler was 1/16 Jewish.

Coincident irony??

  • Mon, Oct 05, 2009 - 06:47pm

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    Re: Sunday’s headline: “Israel names Russians helping Iran …

The Arabs (not Iranians, who are not Arabs) have made many mistakes over the years; they’re still here as nations.

Israel can’t make a mistake. It ‘s too bad the Iranian people will suffer for their government’s stupidity.

Actually, I guess that’s about the way it is for citizens in most countries……

 

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