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  • Wed, Jun 15, 2011 - 11:59pm

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    capesurvivor

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    Uh

Did I mention she hates firearms.

CS

  • Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 12:10am

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    Look no further….

FM –

Your prayers are answered – at least one of them.

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  • Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 01:15am

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    pink Sig

Is that the female Seal model?

CS

  • Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 04:10am

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    LOL! Another same spouse …

[quote=Full Moon]

 The stress can be huge even for the families who all have their eyes open !   Let alone the struggle of a house divided .     Each person thinks they know what best to prep .   One will want to build the food storage while the other has 5000 rounds of ammo arriving UPS .  One wants to buy more bucket calves while the other is stocking up on oil and fuel .   And in the back of your mind you are thinking ‘ what in the hell do we need another case of 30 weight for if  there ia no gas to run the car !”       And ” are you crazy ! I am not spending $500 on a trip when that could  fill the propane tank!”

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Full Moon, we are married to long-lost twins! The problem here is we just got into guns a year ago and neither dh nor sons know how to hunt … but we sure got ammo! … and a reloader for Christmas.

If you think stocking up on oil and fuel are bad … here dh is going wild with finishing up the restoration on 3 old cars because hey, he knows how to work on them, and if SHTF we have vehicles he can repair. But the restoration goes way beyond mechanics … we are getting floor mats, new mirrors and hood emblems in the mail. I don’t really think we’ll care how they look when SHTF, but if I say anything I hear “well you said money wasn’t gonna be worth anything soon, anyway.” (Actually that phrase has become the running joke around here to justify any expense, starting with my dad more than a year ago when he was showing off his brand new Mac computer.)

[quote=Full Moon]

  Times are getting increasingly stressful.    I said no to the kids going to cam this year , No to their Mission trip to Haiti , No to a lot of other things . It gets to be where you weigh where every dime goes .

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Sometimes I wish I hadn’t brought the kids into it, but it’s too big a thing to hide when they are teens … there’s so much they’d question if we just up and did things without explanation. Yet there are days when I think back to when I was 16 or 19 … how would I have felt to have such worries in my future? I think I would have been majorly depressed. I know they keep it at bay by holding a little to the mainstream “things’ll work out somehow,” or … “it’s too far in the future to worry about.” But I know, at least for one kid, it’s affected some of his plans. I wish I would have spared them that.

~ s

  • Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 11:55am

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    Saffron wrote:Sometimes I

[quote=Saffron]

Sometimes I wish I hadn’t brought the kids into it, but it’s too big a thing to hide when they are teens … there’s so much they’d question if we just up and did things without explanation. Yet there are days when I think back to when I was 16 or 19 … how would I have felt to have such worries in my future? I think I would have been majorly depressed. I know they keep it at bay by holding a little to the mainstream “things’ll work out somehow,” or … “it’s too far in the future to worry about.” But I know, at least for one kid, it’s affected some of his plans. I wish I would have spared them that.

~ s

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Hi Saffron,

I’m not going to say anything about marriages and wives (as i’m single and too young for that anyways), but as a recent graduate i wanted to jump in on your last point.

None knows when the S (will) HTF but chances are, it will hit when the current generation of teens will be around their 30’s. Maybe later, mabe sooner. That’s just my opinion. As such I think it is of uttermost importance to reach for those age groups. The sooner they know about it, the more time they will have to do research and learn about the issues we face, and the ones we will. As such I think your decision to include them in your plans was the best thing to do.

Personally, the tought of all this is depressing, but at the same time it is very exilarating. The simple tought of how society is going to change is beyond me, but it is one I’m very interested in. As I read somewhere on these forums, you can still feel happy and have few worries when you know you are somewhat prepared.

 

EDIT: what’s the obession with guns here? I kinda get the whole hunting concept, but why guns? Reading some posts it feels some are almost arming for war more than anything else. Or is there any reason to believe that when SHTF, many people will fall back on animalistic senses, and that guns will be a way to defend one’s self against the horde of unprepared people?

  • Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 01:27pm

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    Wanna wrote: …what’s the

Wanna wrote:

…what’s the obession with guns here? I kinda get the whole hunting concept, but why guns? Reading some posts it feels some are almost arming for war more than anything else. Or is there any reason to believe that when SHTF, many people will fall back on animalistic senses, and that guns will be a way to defend one’s self against the horde of unprepared people?

Pretty much. Also, it is a crime issue: police departments are getting cut. Read FerFal’s posts on ongoing crime during and after an econimic collapse

  • Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 02:18pm

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    Welcome

[quote=Wanna]

Hi Saffron,

I’m not going to say anything about marriages and wives (as i’m single and too young for that anyways), but as a recent graduate i wanted to jump in on your last point.

None knows when the S (will) HTF but chances are, it will hit when the current generation of teens will be around their 30’s. Maybe later, mabe sooner. That’s just my opinion. As such I think it is of uttermost importance to reach for those age groups. The sooner they know about it, the more time they will have to do research and learn about the issues we face, and the ones we will. As such I think your decision to include them in your plans was the best thing to do.

Personally, the tought of all this is depressing, but at the same time it is very exilarating. The simple tought of how society is going to change is beyond me, but it is one I’m very interested in. As I read somewhere on these forums, you can still feel happy and have few worries when you know you are somewhat prepared.

 

EDIT: what’s the obession with guns here? I kinda get the whole hunting concept, but why guns? Reading some posts it feels some are almost arming for war more than anything else. Or is there any reason to believe that when SHTF, many people will fall back on animalistic senses, and that guns will be a way to defend one’s self against the horde of unprepared people?

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Wanna –

Welcome to the site.  There are far too few contributors your age – so thanks for jumping in with your perspective.

Have you read “The Fourth Turning” by William Strauss and Neil Howe?  If not, I highly recommend it.  The Prophets and Nomads here on the site are waiting for your generation to start cranking out some Heros to tackle the coming Crisis (yeah, all of that was from the book).

Take a look at the “Definitive Firearms” thread for some outstanding discussion and debate on responsible firearms ownership and use. 

 

  • Thu, Jun 16, 2011 - 09:50pm

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    Dogs_In_A_Pile wrote:Wanna

[quote=Dogs_In_A_Pile]

Wanna –

Welcome to the site.  There are far too few contributors your age – so thanks for jumping in with your perspective.

Have you read “The Fourth Turning” by William Strauss and Neil Howe?  If not, I highly recommend it.  The Prophets and Nomads here on the site are waiting for your generation to start cranking out some Heros to tackle the coming Crisis (yeah, all of that was from the book).

Take a look at the “Definitive Firearms” thread for some outstanding discussion and debate on responsible firearms ownership and use. 

 

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Thank you Dogs_in_a_pile,

I haven’t had the time to read many threads, I watched the CC over the course of the past two days. I have very busy days, and can only read at work. I’ll definitely try and read the one concerning firearms, although, living in Europe, it might be of limited use to me.

 

Just a thought for everyone who posted in here, since I came to realize the thread has shifted from spouses to a more global questionning of our family’s understanding on the matter at hand. What I think most people don’t realize is when you try to explain certain things to people, they usually tend to expect to see it happen very soon after. Remember a few years ago, how climate change managed to become the n1 problem talked about? The media were all over it, movies and documentaries popping all over. And when we look at thing today, it’s all “yesterday’s news”. The problem is still present, but if you listen to everyday conversation or even the news, it’s barely noticable. The reason behind it, is that it didn’t happened the second after it had all been predicted on a big scale (media ect).

Now, take that example and apply it to your families. You’re telling them shit’s going to happen, you can’t say when but it’s going to be sometime soon. Guess what? This thread has been open for 3 years, yet the SHTF hasn’t occured yet. This causes uninformed people to think it will never happen.

Basically it’s like someone crying for help. The first time he does, he fakes it for attention, second time he does the same thing. After a while people decide not to come when he asks for help. But when he actually needs help, no one’s gonna come running.

As a summary, I believe many people need to change from short term, to longer term thinking and prepping.

 

I hope this made any sense, considering I write badly and can’t express myself so well.

Good luck to all husbands/spouses trying to convince their partner of the facts

  • Fri, Jun 17, 2011 - 07:54am

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    Saffron

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    You said it great

[quote=Wanna]

Just a thought for everyone who posted in here, since I came to realize the thread has shifted from spouses to a more global questionning of our family’s understanding on the matter at hand. What I think most people don’t realize is when you try to explain certain things to people, they usually tend to expect to see it happen very soon after. Remember a few years ago, how climate change managed to become the n1 problem talked about? The media were all over it, movies and documentaries popping all over. And when we look at thing today, it’s all “yesterday’s news”. The problem is still present, but if you listen to everyday conversation or even the news, it’s barely noticable. The reason behind it, is that it didn’t happened the second after it had all been predicted on a big scale (media ect).

Now, take that example and apply it to your families. You’re telling them shit’s going to happen, you can’t say when but it’s going to be sometime soon. Guess what? This thread has been open for 3 years, yet the SHTF hasn’t occured yet. This causes uninformed people to think it will never happen.

Basically it’s like someone crying for help. The first time he does, he fakes it for attention, second time he does the same thing. After a while people decide not to come when he asks for help. But when he actually needs help, no one’s gonna come running.

As a summary, I believe many people need to change from short term, to longer term thinking and prepping.

I hope this made any sense, considering I write badly and can’t express myself so well.

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Actually Wanna, you said it quite well … and your thinking is correct – we *have* been talking a long time and in some ways SHTF seems even further out! After some time, my initial “OMG I’ve got so much to do” dragged into “alright, I’ll never be done so go ahead, bring it on.” Indeed it seems like the intention is to drag it out so long that it never even seems like SHTF … it will just seem like life has always been hard, jobs have always been scarce, we’ve always been at war with Eurasia (or was it Eastasia) and chocolate has always been rationed.

… or maybe … we’ve always been at war with Iraq … no, Iran … and oil has always been rationed.

~ s

 

  • Fri, Aug 12, 2011 - 02:55am

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    Nitrogen-packed Love Affair – A One Act Play

Thanks everyone for your great comments, inspiration and information in this forum. 

But as Tricky DIck once said, "When the going gets tough, the tough get going." So I wrote a play about it. https://www.peakprosperity.com/forum/nitrogen-packed-love-affair-one-act-play/61395

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