Solving the Vaccine Passport debate

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  • Mon, Mar 29, 2021 - 11:36am

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    kshilt

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    Solving the Vaccine Passport debate

I am totally against requiring a vaccine passport to travel or have access to events or businesses as I have not desire to get any mRNA vaccine.

However…..

If there is a way that we can get Ivermectin labeled as a “vaccine” just as the mRNA therapies did I would happily participate in a vaccine passport.  From the evidence, it appears that Ivermectin has just as much efficacy if not more against contracting COVID as the mRNA therapies do.  Part of the dispute between people who take the vaccine who are offended by those people who refuse is the fact that they do not understand there is an alternative.  I am taking ivermectin on a prophylactic basis.  I feel I am just as protected if not more than anyone who has taken the vaccine.  Therefore, stamp my “vaccine passport” as not being a danger to society.

Otherwise, give me an ivermectin injection if need be to stamp that passport and I will happily comply.

  • Mon, Mar 29, 2021 - 11:49am

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    brushhog

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    Solving the Vaccine Passport debate

As far as I can tell, there is no debate. The powers that be are just going to do whatever they want. In fact they have gone to great lengths to censor and attack any voices that go against their directives for the very purpose of AVOIDING debate.

From my perspective, the only issue is ‘how far are they willing to go’ to force/coerce you into taking the vaccine, and ‘how far are you willing to go’ to resist?

  • Mon, Mar 29, 2021 - 12:20pm

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    Mike from Jersey

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kshilt,

You  wrote:

If there is a way that we can get Ivermectin labeled as a “vaccine” just as the mRNA therapies did I would happily participate in a vaccine passport.

Seriously, that won’t happen.

It is obvious that there is a conspiracy (yes, I said “a conspiracy”) to suppress Ivermectin and to force people to submit to vaccines.

It makes no difference that Ivermectin would save many, many lives.

It makes no difference that mass vaccination programs are a gamble with public health.

Some group or groups  of people – for some reason – have decided “no Ivermectin” and “compelled vaccines.”

And they could care less about what happens to you or me.

  • Mon, Mar 29, 2021 - 12:43pm

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    Solving the Vaccine Passport debate

Not much debate needed.  Just do it and they will come around (eventually).  Traveling will be much easier, IMO.  I’m thinking this could be incorporated into the ez pass system used for car tolls to really streamline personal access and movement, and potentially restrict the access of problematic recalcitrants, miscreants, and other heterodox undesirables.

https://epass.ny.gov/terms  (from terms, “authorization to disclose” section):

This screening website will allow you to confirm a recent negative COVID-19 test result or vaccination status and demonstrate this information to third parties.

To facilitate this confirmation, the website collects your COVID-19 status, and website use for the sole purpose of your receiving a Excelsior Pass the essential information from you, which may include questions such as: First Name; Last name; Date of Birth; Zip Code; vaccination location or COVID-19 test location; vaccination type or COVID-19 test type; and vaccination date or COVID-19 test date.

Your completion of this screening website results in the disclosure of personal information and constitutes your consent to the collection and disclosure of such information by New York State for the purposes of providing your COVID-19 test results or vaccination status, follow up communications, contact tracing. or similar services. The application may be hosted by third parties working with New York State. Certain information you provide to, or that is collected by, the application may be shared with these third parties. These third parties shall limit their use of the information solely to the purposes described, with access only to the results provided and not to the underlying data…

  • Mon, Mar 29, 2021 - 04:32pm

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    Primary Care_MD

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    Solving the Vaccine Passport debate

Once everyone gets an immunity passport (June of this year), it will be linked to your bank account (digital cash). If you want to access your digital wallet, or credit card, or fly,  you’ll need to get the next vaccine, and the next vaccine, etc. leverage. social control.  The time to oppose this is now (!) Unless you prefer to one day tell your grand kids how you fled Nazi America.

  • Mon, Mar 29, 2021 - 08:24pm

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    Solving the Vaccine Passport debate

Sadly this isn’t just coming around in America!  We are in a weird place when I have an urge to flee to the relative safety of a third world country like Zimbabwe which embraces Ivermectin use!!

Clown world is here…

  • Tue, Mar 30, 2021 - 05:22pm

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    Germany- If you die of vaccine, no life insurance payout

There’s more afoot than “Oh just suck it up … it’s just a shot.”  There are financial issues as well. Insurance companies have all kinds of outs on their policies. According to our German friends, the life insurance companies in Germany are not paying out if you die of complications of the vaccine as it’s experimental.

A review of our health insurance doesn’t pay if we travel to or even through a Level 3-4 CV case nation as it’s “unnecessary travel into a pandemic area.” So you can be on a plane that passes through Japan, SK just when an alert happens, and your health insurance is invalid.

Additionally, check your life insurance.  Many have out clauses that “war, acts of God (tsunamis, hurricanes, volcanoes), and pandemics” are excluded. Not sure if my deceased sibling’s will pay as died of CV complications.

Technically in the US, it’s against Federal Law to require an unapproved vaccine. Since the CV is an experimental vaccine never fully approved by the FDA and only under the EUA (emergency authorization), it cannot be forced by law; whatever that means now.

Insurance companies are huge lobbyists to Congress. Follow the money.

  • Tue, Mar 30, 2021 - 07:05pm

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    Solving the Vaccine Passport debate

I wonder that this all means in practice?   So far here is what we (think) we know:

1) Vaccine makers are not liable for injury or death from mRna vaccines

2) People who die shortly after taking vaccines are presumed not to have been killed by the vaccine because “People die all the time”.

 

If 2) is true how can the ins company not pay out?   I wonder if this is being done to stop the surviving relatives from making a big stink about the situation.

 

D: “I’m sorry maam, your husband has passed for unknown reasons”

W: ” It was that vaccine that killed him, I know it!  He was fit as a fiddle last week!”.

D: “Well then, if you are saying you know the cause of death with certainty we can write that on the death certificate and forward it off to your insurance company so they can apply their policies to determine whether you get that million dollar payout”

W: “Uhhhh…  Just a second….”

  • Tue, Mar 30, 2021 - 08:04pm

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    Mike from Jersey

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    Forged Vaccine Passports

The new black market sensation. Forged vaccine passports.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/health-care-workers-bragging-about-forged-vax-cards-fake-passports-hit-street

About fifty per cent of the population really doesn’t want to be part of this mass experiment, so there is a ready made customer base.

  • Tue, Mar 30, 2021 - 08:40pm

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    Solving the Vaccine Passport debate

Forged Vaccine Passports

lol, who didn’t see this coming?

 

I think this may be why the silicon valley crowd is so keen to establish a digital version that would be recognized worldwide.   I believe there is an idea in computer science that the higher the quality of the credential (that is, the more likely it is what it appears to be) the more valuable it is as a target for attack, theft, forgery etc).

 

I wonder if I’d have the balls to go on vacation with one of these?   You can buy “real” Windows 10 licenses on ebay for $5.   The risk is that might find Windows complaining its not Activated in few months.   Maybe that will happen with our forged vaccine passports…

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