Should I Stay or Should I Go?
Enough people have posted about this that I think it’s worth a section in the new site, plus a system for connecting with members within our own areas. More of us are starting to wake up to the reality that we are going to have to build communities, despite whether we decide to relocate or stay where we are.
Mememonkey, you said:
That said, I still think all things being equal it’s better to me surrounded by higher density of people that are not brainwashed, and I’m ornery enough to move just on principle and probably will.
This is really it, key for me. I’ve had a lot of people tell me I should stay and fight, and all of that, but perhaps it’s my pragmatic self (or maybe defeatist, who knows) that says we’re outnumbered and I’d be better off building my castle where I am surrounded – not just on a county level, but on a state level – with more people who are not gonna buy the narrative. I worry about my kids, who are still relatively young… I know that wherever I live when they grow up and leave will be sort of a “hub” and I don’t want that to be here. I don’t want my future grandkids to not know freedom… and here, it’s almost a guarantee they won’t really know. Hell – I don’t really know it either, if I’m being honest.
How sustainable/resilient are you where you are?
Could you self-medicate against disease and eat out of your pantry for an extended period? Don’t forget water.
Imagine being deprived of services and grocery access the same as surviving a natural disaster that persists for a while.
Just some thoughts. Cheers
I’d love to see a section that would enable people to connect with others looking to find like minded community in the physical world. I’m planning on exploring several red states next year and will do some advance “homework “ online.
If you want to move to a place where you will not freeze to death…where you will never run out of clean water…where you can have any garden you wish…where the government is not run by the idiot Democrats…where the land is affordable…where there are no State Income Taxes…where you can have your 110 acre ranch, and still be only 4 or 5 miles from a Civic Center…where there are no mandates, and laws exist to prevent such mandates from happening…where you can fish every day, in fresh or salt waters…where you can build whatever castle you wish without the hassles found in other places…where everyone is basically well armed…and it does not snow, move to Florida.
You can live on the Gulf Coast, or Central Florida in the middle of the state, or on the Atlantic Coast. You can choose to live on your power cabin cruiser…horse/cattle ranch…your farm/orchard…a smaller town like Ocala, or Gainesville, or in a nice, small, home in the center of a level 5 acre lot.
I moved all my stuff out of California and Maui…to move to Orlando, to work for Walt Disney World, years ago. I retired from Disney..and moved to OCALA, which just finished building the world’s largest equestrian center, as Marion County is the horse breeding capital of the planet.
I still have a hard time getting used to the quiet…the incredible flora..the live oaks, with their streamers of moss…and being able to wear nothing but shorts and a t-shirt almost all year (if it gets below 60 F, we think it is an ice age).
You will get used to the change in climate in about 3 years…and will wonder why the Northerners complain so much. It gets to the point where, when leaves Florida to visit family…WE cannot stand being taken out of our environment–and wish to return after a few weeks.
Republican State. Low Taxes. No State Income Taxes. More wild edible plants than any other state. Incredible gardens. Fresh spring waters, coming out of the ground at 72 F for the last 15,000 years..and crystal clear…walking distance from me.
Move to a REALLY small Florida village…and open an Antiques store on the main drag…
You will not die of thirst, lack of food, or liberal trauma…
Living in a red county, in N Central WA, seems to help a lot. Okanogan County, overall, is pretty moderate about the masking in businesses. Farther east in WA is even more lax. Lots of long time rural people with knowledge of how to live from a farm or ranch. Can’t rely on rain, but being on a really well managed irrigation ditch works well. Or solar powered pumps from river rights. We can buy beef, chicken and pork from neighbors we know. Have a local guy who will take your animal from on the hoof to in the freezer. Has a stainless steel facility on his ranch. He’s teaching younger men to do the work.
Really, my biggest worry is rising property taxes, due to West Siders escaping the city and paying outrageous prices for rural properties with a well and a house. Our taxes have doubled in 12 years. The farther east you go, toward the Spokane area, you run into the same thing and across the border into ID and Coeur de Lane area. Seems to me that FL and TX are both purple states right now, so is Montana. Only ID, WY, ND, SD, OK and WV are truly red any more. The blue folks with money aren’t flocking to these places, yet. Although we could get an amazing price for our 5 acre farm with fences, sheep and poultry buildings, irrigated pasture, two wells, a shop and a fiber shed, and a nice little 80’s house, we are in our 60’s and it took us 15 years to get this place to a productive level. Can’t see doing that again somewhere far from a good community base. We will stay and hope that the county will stand firm in a crisis.
I have property in cowlitz county WA.. the county couldn’t meet budget so they raised property taxes 3 years ago precovid.. I had a unbuildable lot of little value… then in 1 year raised my taxes 30 times higher! thats 3,000% increase in 1 year.. now granted taxes were really low before but I now I pay the same tax on a unbuildable scrap lot in washington that I would for a manufacturer home on its own lot in Sedona Arizona.. in Portland my house taxes went up 20% this year alone.. so yeah most people think they will kick in your door.. Nope… just make its so expensive you can’t comply and take everything you have.. doubt it note the new $700,000 OSHA fines anyone for mandates?