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  • Fri, Apr 27, 2012 - 07:56pm

    #21

    Dogs_In_A_Pile

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    Damnthematrix

Damnthematrix wrote:
bootstrap wrote:

I am not willing to be one of the suckers and sheeple.  Are you?  Are ALL of you?

There’s half your problem……  you’ve been on this site for what, less than a week, couldn’t possibly have taken the time to read the thousands of posts we’ve put up between us to find out what sort of people we are, and here you are assuming we’re all sheeples…

Well earthwise did go “Baaaaaa” in the previous post………..

Wait…..sorry, never mind. 

  • Fri, Apr 27, 2012 - 10:29pm

    #22
    earthwise

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    Who’s the sucker?

 

bootstrap wrote:

I am not willing to be one of the suckers and sheeple. Are you? Are ALL of you?

Apparently, not  ALL.  Look! You’ve got four prospects already. And you’ve only been pestering us for three days. Not b-a-a-a-a-d. Not b-a-a-a-a-d at all. What a salesman!!

 

(Is it me or are they starting to form a conga line? Wow! Who knew that New Zealand could be more exciting than Ft. Lauderdale on spring break.)

 

  • Fri, Apr 27, 2012 - 11:11pm

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    Dogs_In_A_Pile

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    earthwise

earthwise wrote:

 

bootstrap wrote:

I am not willing to be one of the suckers and sheeple. Are you? Are ALL of you?

Apparently, not  ALL.  Look! You’ve got four prospects already. And you’ve only been pestering us for three days. Not b-a-a-a-a-d. Not b-a-a-a-a-d at all. What a salesman!!

 

(Is it me or are they starting to form a conga line? Wow! Who knew that New Zealand could be more exciting than Ft. Lauderdale on spring break.)

Huh?

What part of Ft Lauderdale did YOU go to for Spring Break?????

  • Sat, Apr 28, 2012 - 01:25am

    #24

    ccpetersmd

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    Give the Guy a Break

bootstrap could have done better in introducing himself to this community and presenting his opportunities. For example, he might have taken the time to get to know regular members here by an introductory post relating only to the 3Es. First establishing his bona fides in such a manner would probably have made a later post of this type more acceptable to people here. Or, he might have considered posting on one of the many threads here about relocating, instead.

Still, I didn’t think his original post seemed like spam; I was skeptical, of course, but also curious. I recall PMs with Davos and others about finding a sovereign island somewhere. The idea may be impractical for some, but it is nonetheless alluring to many.

Furthermore, bootstrap has tried to respond to the many critiques and questions thrown his way; and done so with fairly good humor, it seems to me. Although bootstrap perhaps made a misstep in his first post here, could we not find a way to be more welcoming while still maintaining our skepticism?

FWIW…

  • Sat, Apr 28, 2012 - 05:16am

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    bootstrap

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    Damnthematrix

Damnthematrix wrote:
bootstrap wrote:

I am not willing to be one of the suckers and sheeple.  Are you?  Are ALL of you?

There’s half your problem……  you’ve been on this site for what, less than a week, couldn’t possibly have taken the time to read the thousands of posts we’ve put up between us to find out what sort of people we are, and here you are assuming we’re all sheeples…

I am really sorry, but can you tell the difference between questions and assertions?

  • Tue, May 15, 2012 - 05:46pm

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    Locavorous

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    I agree with CCPetersMD

You guys who jumped on Bootstraps back embarrass this community. It sure looks like you’re trying to be the cool kids giving the new kid grief because he’s wearing the wrong loafers. It all smacks of anti-intellectual bias and ‘inner circle’ protectionism, ESPECIALLY when you rely on post counting and join dates.

Granted, Bootstrap could’ve come in a bit more humble, which is never out of place, but to further this conversation in public with this tone doesn’t do CM any favors, nor does it promote new postings from new members if they perceive this is the greeting party that awaits.

Please allow your ego to take a back burner, and ask relevant questions that can illuminate your concerns while either supporting Bootstraps request, or help to clarify the relevance of his ask based on our discussions of the 3Es.

Failing that, if you can’t say anything nice, refrain from hitting Submit.

Bootstraps, good luck. Even though some of your comments about your fiscal state compared to others hit below my belt, the truth hurts, and so I’m not a viable candidate for your search. Though I know of several people who meet your criteria, are actively looking in Central America and will make a decision this calendar year, I believe some of the way you characterize yourself and your journey would turn them off.

Stay on the High Road, gentlefolk. TS hasn’t HTF yet.

 

  • Tue, May 15, 2012 - 06:48pm

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    goes211

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    Embarrass this community? Not so fast…

Locavorous,

From your join date and low post count I assume you have been lurking around here for a while.  Also, because the last post on this thread ( before yours ) was 2 – 3 weeks ago, I am going to assume you don’t come here and keep up daily.  If you are not here often, maybe you are unaware of how much spam gets posted on a daily basis.  I am sure that many infrequent CM.com visitors are unaware of the problem because the moderators do such a good job cleaning up the mess, that there is really no traces left.  I know I personally have marked 100’s of messages as spam and watched them get removed within a few hours, and I am by no means alone.

Let me tell you that a first post that is trying to sell something that also occurs on the joined date, has a near 100% correlation to being done by a spammer.  I came very close to marking Bootstrap’s first message as spam when I saw it, but it did seem different than the usual spiel, so I left it alone.  However, when his second post was disrespectful, it earned a response.  To Bootstrap’s credit, he did hang around and respond to some of the questions that members had.  This is not something that a regular spammer does, so I no longer think he is a spammer. 

One thing all new posters need to keep in mind is: “You never get a second chance to make a first impression.”

  • Tue, May 15, 2012 - 07:39pm

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    Locavorous

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    Fair enough!

Your assessment of my involvement is a good one. I look at the Daily Digest, well, daily. And I skim the forums, usually only reading homestead related topics, though I admit to following XrayMike’s posts closer. I still protest those metrics (join date/post count) as being insular.

And I don’t consider myself a ‘lurker’, but a ‘learner’ 🙂

I didn’t know about the spam problem and am surprised at the scale. Thank you for protecting my experience.

Still, if the goal of some responders was to create a gauntlet for new posters to survive just to prove whether or not the OP was spam, and running it includes absorbing ad hominems, and thus stem the flow of more spam, then this is not the community I thought it was. I certainly haven’t witnessed other similar treatment, but it sounds like that may be because of my low hours of involvement.

The 3Es resonate with me. I’ve changed my life accordingly, and I proselytize the Crash Course. I see people all over the map, literally and figuratively discussing reaction and action plans, and some are more believable than others. I’m not yet ready to narrow my window of perception because it ‘sounds like a duck’, and I was very surprised to see some familiar names lash out. I have a lot to contribute because of my last 5 years homesteading, but I’m now more shy than ever to share because I see a chink in the armor of trust I thought this community engendered.

This is all a learning moment, in a time when all is either breaking through or breaking down.

 

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