Scenario: Implosion, Collapse, & Liberation

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  • Mon, Nov 10, 2008 - 08:33pm

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    Majormoney

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    Scenario: Implosion, Collapse, & Liberation

1. A worldwide crisis of confidence exists.

2. This is due to the absence of Liberty, especially the absence of the Gold Standard.  The ‘money’ is corrupt. The economic and financial numbers mean nothing.  People no longer trust each other.  Reasonable risks are avoided.  Production, exchange–and consumption–are reduced.

3. But everyone pays taxes. Therefore, everyone says: "I’ve paid the Government; now let the Government pay me."    Everyone who is hurting petitions the Government for assistance/subsidies/bailouts.

4. The Government "must do something."  Government bails out everyone–with more bogus ‘money’ created out of thin air.

5. Hyperinflation results.  Confidence is reduced further.  Production, exchange–and consumption–are reduced further. 

6. Again, the Government "must do something."  Martial law is imposed. 

7. Confidence is reduced still further.  Production, exchange–and consumption–are severely curtailed.

8. Everyone panics.  Even the police and the military no longer obey orders (fortunately),.

9. The political systems of the world collapse.  Two and a half millennia of political and economic contradictions–from Plato to Machiavelli to Hobbes to The Founding Fathers to Keynes to contemporary creatures who are too numerous and too odious to name–have come full circle and have utterly failed.

10  The human race is finally freed from the lethal curse of Government–if the ultimate Government contradiction can be avoided–if the jackass politicians and mad militarists can keep their fingers off the nuclear buttons–and if people understand what caused the original crisis of confidence, and then vow never to make the same mistakes again.

  • Mon, Nov 10, 2008 - 11:28pm

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    The Blank Slate

Americans should FORTHWITH stop all payments on mortgages, car loans and credit cards.

Bring the banks to their knees and renegotiate/cancel all debts.

BLANK SLATE.

Start again.  Sustainably this time…….. 

  • Mon, Dec 01, 2008 - 01:44pm

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    Re: The Blank Slate

And what about taxes? That brings the government to it’s knees.

  • Wed, Dec 17, 2008 - 12:57am

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    Re: Scenario: Implosion, Collapse, & Liberation

I wish we had some of the boxes you get when you renew your drivers license on our 1040’s. Wink You know what I mean – the ‘do you want to contribute to ‘x’ program’, etc. If they listed all the federally subsidized programs and had a checkbox next to it and you could decide where your money went – how democratic is that?! You could either:

A) support each program only with the $$ given through taxes paid by supporting individuals

B) Support only the programs that had majority vote. I’m not sure how you would determine a cap on where something loses ‘majority’ (other than to say anything that gets over 50% votes in favor of support)

I’ve always complained that if given the choice, there are certain programs I think should be funded directly if an individual wishes to. Not forced upon us by tax dollars. (Yes, I *am* a registered Libertarian) If the majority of folks really think the NEA should be funded with tax dollars, so be it. I for one, would give it up and let the rich that can enjoy that sort of thing continue to give the money they do.

Damnthematrix – I wish we could get enough folks to do just that. Unfortunately most of us (myself included) are too scared to without some serious backup. A small town’s worth of people in a small-population state doing it, for example, wouldn’t make as much of an impact as say – the whole of L.A. or NYC suddenly grinding the system to a halt. Could you imagine that?! People would jump on that bandwagon post-haste. It’d be great.  

  • Wed, Dec 17, 2008 - 01:01am

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    Re: Scenario: Implosion, Collapse, & Liberation

Politician wasn’t always a dirty word.

  • Wed, Dec 17, 2008 - 01:04am

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    Re: Scenario: Implosion, Collapse, & Liberation

Could you imagine that?! People would jump on that bandwagon post-haste. It’d be great.  

yep i could imagine it . but make sure you have plenty of food and water and alternative power if necessary, also do not forget the meds THEY  will shut everything off.

  • Wed, Dec 17, 2008 - 01:30am

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    Re: Scenario: Implosion, Collapse, & Liberation

Bring the banks to their knees and renegotiate/cancel all debts.

True story. I called Citibank recently to cancel my credit card. When I
told the operator of my intentions, she passed my call on to someone
else. Well, I couldn’t get this guy to take cancel for an answer. Every
time I said "cancel the card," he offered a lower interest rate. If I
said "no negotations," he offered a lower interest rate. When I told
him I was losing my patience, he offered a lower interest rate. When he
talked, I talked over him. It might have been ten minutes of this
before he agreed to cancel the card. One important thing to remember:
always aske for a letter of cancellation. These people are known to
leave accounts open, leaving you vulnerable to identity theft. These
banks are getting desperate and we know they have no scruples.

  • Wed, Dec 17, 2008 - 02:26am

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    emdiaz

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    Re: Scenario: Implosion, Collapse, & Liberation

What about the disable, the police, the hospitals that are paid with taxed money?   What about all those people that work in banks and the people that depend on the money from people that work on all those financial institutions?   What about all those that are doing Ok because they got ready for this long time ago?   

  • Mon, Jan 05, 2009 - 07:48pm

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    Re: The Blank Slate

Damnthematrix said:

Americans should FORTHWITH stop all payments on mortgages, car loans and credit cards.


Bring the banks to their knees and renegotiate/cancel all debts.

While I agree with the sentiment, I can’t agree with your solution.  You signed a contract agreeing to the interest and payback, so it would be against your word to simply stop paying and demand renegotiation.

Richard

 

  • Mon, Jan 05, 2009 - 08:44pm

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    Re: The Blank Slate

[quote=rmurfster]

Damnthematrix said:

Americans should FORTHWITH stop all payments on mortgages, car loans and credit cards.


Bring the banks to their knees and renegotiate/cancel all debts.

While I agree with the sentiment, I can’t agree with your solution. You signed a contract agreeing to the interest and payback, so it would be against your word to simply stop paying and demand renegotiation.

Richard[/quote]

You can’t be serious…….

Isn’t there also an underlying contract, when you sign the mortgage documents, that there will actually be a working economy lying around, so that you can extort the necessary funds and resources to actually make the repayments? 

Sorry, but as far as I am concerned, the Matrix has broken its underlying contract, all bets are off.  Time to REBOOT! 

Mike 

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