Refreshingly Rational Discussion About Vaccine Options

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  • Fri, Jan 22, 2021 - 02:42am

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    KathyP

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    Refreshingly Rational Discussion About Vaccine Options

  • Fri, Jan 22, 2021 - 06:45am

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Thehighwire dot com has weekly (Thursday afternoon) discussions. The best I have seen.

That was a very interesting discussion. Except for their assumption that traditionally made vaccines have been shown to be safe. They haven’t.

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    mRNA vs Oxford Vaccines

Thank you KathyP …..excellent video. Ironically I just emailed my oncologist who is at Columbia Presbyterian in NYC and asked him to counsel me on the two different vaccine types. I took a treatment for prostate cancer which instructed my T-cells to fight the cancer. It’s called Provenge …..I am concerned that jacking around with my RNA and DNA could somehow negate the benefit I got from the treatment. If I was to get a vaccine (that would be years out after thorough vetting) it would be the Oxford…..but for now I like IVM prophylaxis.

  • Fri, Jan 22, 2021 - 03:08pm

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I’m going to wait until we have three FDA approved (not EUA) Covid vaccines and the results of the MMR study.  Then I will pick one.

If the MMR is more than 50% effective against SARSCOV2 (that is the trial endpoint, not CoViD19 like the others) then I will go with the MMR.

  • Mon, Jan 25, 2021 - 07:33am

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^ But you’re doing that due to being “forced”, i.e. fired from your job or similar circumstance… right? Not because you think it’s a good idea to trust the people who are suppressing and censoring all effective non-vaccine treatments thus causing over 1.2 million unnecessary deaths, right?

  • Mon, Jan 25, 2021 - 09:45am

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This video was informative. But I think that there is one thing that they did not make clear.

It is true that AstraZeneca vaccine is an adenovirus vaccine and not a mRNA vaccine. But the AstraZeneca vaccine does indeed use genetic engineering processes to create this particular adenovirus vaccine.

It makes a difference.

The mRNA vaccines are totally experimental and the risks involved are completely unknown.

On the other hand, adenovirus vaccines have a long track record and the risks are pretty well understood.

But I don’t know if “genetically engineered” adenovirus vaccines have ever been successfully used or tested in the long term. If someone knows the answer to that, I love to hear it.

If it has been used before and the safety issues are understood then I would seriously consider getting the AstraZeneca vaccine.  On the other hand, I have no intention to become a test animal for either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine.

Another thing that is interesting about this video was how the two speakers went out of their way to say that they were not anti-vaxxers.

It used to be in this country that you could advocate non-mainstream opinions and not risk being censored or vilified. Nowadays, everyone is walking on eggshells lest they be deemed (God forbid) to have questioned a narrative considered to be sacrosanct by our rulers.

These are the times we live in.

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    AstraZeneca least harmful vaccine yet still insane

^ But the AstraZeneca vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission and doesn’t prevent you from getting sick either, it only “reduces symptoms” (is it the one that only “reduces coughing”? LOL)… only a healthy immune system protects you (even if you’re 100+ years old). And all information about that is being ignored and all effective treatments (such as vitamin D) are being suppressed… So why would you get it (even if it doesn’t have aluminum and “only” has aborted human fetus GMO cells and carcinogenic polysorbate 80)???

  • Tue, Feb 16, 2021 - 05:13pm   (Reply to #7)

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    Refreshingly Rational Discussion About Vaccine Options Why yes now?

Why would you get any of them?
1) No access to safe ivermectin and you or a family member are high risk.  If your risk of death or disability from covid is high, the vaccine is probably lower risk and if you’re older you will probably die of something else before experiencing long-term side effects.  I’ve sent several high-risk family members to get vaccinated as a lower risk option – not a safe option, just the lesser of two evils and they are NOT going to get their lives back – same restrictions just less risk of nasty illness/death.

2) It might slow the spread of nastier mutations.  (And it might not as people who have been careless before become even more careless once they are vaccinated and “safe”.  Also, if it only prevents severe cases, not infection you can spread, then it’s just more symptomless people to expose others.)
We should already know the answer to #2.  Since it’s not published, I assume the answer is vaccine lowers hospitalization/death rates.  IT DOES NOT PREVENT YOU INFECTING OTHERS, or they would have said so.  Don’t gather data that will make you look bad – it’s the American way.
I believe Israel is doing this research now.  Keep looking for the answer.

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