Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

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  • Sun, Jun 14, 2009 - 06:00pm

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    Re: Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

 

For those who would be interested, ’twasn’t me who flagged the offensive post . . . . For myself, I am content to take whatever insults are hurled at me for advocating spiritual considerations. 

  • Sun, Jun 14, 2009 - 06:02pm

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    Re: Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

 

For those who would be interested, I have, long before being flagged, sent a PM to Investorzzo, asking him if he is offended by this thread’s tangent, and whether he would like me to redirect it toward the original topic.  He has very clearly indicated that he is unconcerned with the direction this thread has taken, and indicated no desire to have it redirected. 

Though it may be apparent to most, let me say that I consider it an indication that I have hit the mark when my post is flagged by a person who does even keep his own self-imposed, but publicly posted vow to himself and this community not to respond to my posts ever again.  This behavior speaks for itself, and FWIW, I bear this kind of treatment as a sort of badge of courage.  I will be posting more on this subject, at some future time, but, suffice to say that it is sad that we have come to a time in this culture when a person cannot make an observation about the state of our morals and ethics without being bitterly attacked by those who are unwilling to have others express opinions with which they do not agree.  I can only hope that the moderators and CM do not share this attitude of intolerance. 

[Ed. note: A post is properly flagged by a user when they see material which they feel may be inappropriate.  It is not the responsibility of any user to perfectly anticipate the moderation decisions of the moderators, nor is it fair to make allusions regarding a user’s character as a result of them expressing strong opinions which they honestly hold.  We will have an armistice, please.]

 

  • Sun, Jun 14, 2009 - 06:56pm

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    Re: Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

I believe it may be helpful to clarify the reason why this thread was moved to the CT folder.

This thread was moved because of its general subject matter and the fact that theories relating to UN/government planned enslavement, secret world government, inoculation and vaccination as a planned means of population reduction, codex alimentarius, etc, is the very definition of a conspiracy theory which must by our site policy be moved to the CT folder.

For a recent public comment explaining this policy, please read here.

The reason had nothing whatsoever to do with any discussion of spirituality.  We will not allow users to extol the virtues of specific religions over others (sorry), or even religion in general, but broad appeals to spiritual life are appropriate and have never been categorically prohibited.

As always, users should feel free to email me with questions and comments. 

  • Sun, Jun 14, 2009 - 10:23pm

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    Re: Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

C1oudfire , 

    So sorry you were flagged for  mentioning your religious views front and center .  Last time I knew we citizens of the USA  still had the Constitutional  right  to religious freedom as well as freedom of speech .  In fact my husband served a full  career in the USAF  just to defend those freedoms .   I would give you Chapter and verse as to why you should count it as an honorable thing  to endure such persecution … but it would be flagged for sure .  Fact is   everyone has to have faith and trust  in something …   a lot of people have faith in the security of their earthly treasures  , their  physical abilities , or their own wisdom .  I am most certain these are going to fall and some eyes will be opened .  My father for one will be totally devastated when TSHTF … his money is worthless and he will have to be humbled to accepting help from some others  … Yes I would say it is  pridefulness.  

 I also think you are not alone here and many are afraid to speak freely for fear of persecution . I do hope they have figured out how to ask questions from  ,and glean wisdom  that  you have to  share  from inbox at the top of the page here.  

  Maybe a thread that has a daily  or weekly uplifting scripture from the proverbs would help many of us  from getting discouraged .   We are  already in a battle and  I for one follow the guy on the http://www.SurvivalBlog.com   each day  just to get the perspective of where our help  and strength comes from .  

I will put this message in your inbox in case it it flagged also .

   May be we found faithful to the end .

  • Sun, Jun 14, 2009 - 11:42pm

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    Re: Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

[quote=Diana]

C1oudfire , 

    So sorry you were flagged for  mentioning your religious views front and center .  Last time I knew we citizens of the USA  still had the Constitutional  right  to religious freedom as well as freedom of speech .  In fact my husband served a full  career in the USAF  just to defend those freedoms .   I would give you Chapter and verse as to why you should count it as an honorable thing  to endure such persecution … but it would be flagged for sure .  Fact is   everyone has to have faith and trust  in something …   a lot of people have faith in the security of their earthly treasures  , their  physical abilities , or their own wisdom .  I am most certain these are going to fall and some eyes will be opened .  My father for one will be totally devastated when TSHTF … his money is worthless and he will have to be humbled to accepting help from some others  … Yes I would say it is  pridefulness.  

 I also think you are not alone here and many are afraid to speak freely for fear of persecution . I do hope they have figured out how to ask questions from  ,and glean wisdom  that  you have to  share  from inbox at the top of the page here.  

  Maybe a thread that has a daily  or weekly uplifting scripture from the proverbs would help many of us  from getting discouraged .   We are  already in a battle and  I for one follow the guy on the http://www.SurvivalBlog.com   each day  just to get the perspective of where our help  and strength comes from .  

I will put this message in your inbox in case it it flagged also .

   May be we found faithful to the end .

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Thanks, Diana, for your support.  I am pleased to report that I have a healthy PM correspondence with folks who find the spiritual life essential, especially in facing these difficult times.

 

  • Mon, Jun 15, 2009 - 03:00am

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    Re: Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

[quote=Diana] Maybe a thread that has a daily  or weekly uplifting scripture from the proverbs would help many of us from getting discouraged [/quote]

A daily thread with quotes from the Bible is probably not the type of thing that the community could sucessfully handle.  Because the religious topic is so explosive we have set our normal forum rules to give it a cautious berth (see my post above).

As far as persecution goes, I will try my best to see that nobody is persecuted for their beliefs.  PeakProsperity.com is not pro-religion, nor anti-religion.  That is because the people who work at the site have different religious ideas, as do the users.  We respect our different ideas. 

But many people have certain "hot-button" issues which, if raised, cause them to close their minds and prevent any further rational thought from taking place.  Religion is one of these hot-button topics.  Since the purpose of the website is to spread awareness to as many people as possible (including the religious and non-religious alike) we must avoid language which could cause them to shut off their minds.  If the message of the site can be kept neutral long enough, hopefully people can be led to consider the evidence on its own merits.

We cannot let our primary mission of spreading awareness about the 3 E’s to be destroyed by secondary issues.  All mentions of religion seem to result in violent argument on the forums.  By "religion" I mean different religions verusus each other, and versus atheism.  So, we don’t stifle religion, we just agree not to talk about it for a little while, while we are guests in Chris Martenson’s living room.

Without a broad awareness among the people of the issues raised in the Crash Course, nothing good can come of any suggestion made here.  And broad awareness cannot result if this website is avoided by people—people of faith, atheists, or by any other group.

All users or comments should feel free to email me.

  • Mon, Jun 15, 2009 - 05:25am

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    Re: Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

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When it comes to vaccinations, what’s the problem with them?  I’ve heard they have Hg which causes poisoning in the body.  Is that the main concern?  If so, would they be OK if manufactured without Hg?  Our state (TX) now requires more vaccinations for our kids before they go back to school next fall.  The argument is that the small percent of reactions outweighs spread of disease in the schools. Sounds reasonable to me but I know there’s another side to it.  Is there also a "conspiracy" concern that tptb are trying to kill off the kids or cut their lives short?  Can someone boil down the concerns of vaccines for me in a short paragraph or two?

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UUhhh… does anyone care to answer my question about vaccinations?

  • Mon, Jun 15, 2009 - 05:59am

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    Re: Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

My sincere apologies and prayers to, CM and all unbelievers that I might have offended by my suggestion of having an inspirational forum.  I  truely did not realize there were unacceptable hot topics. No offense was intended and I assumed if a person did not want to read them you would not !

There are many books and views on whether or not to immunize your children . It is a personal conviction and is probably one of those hot topics . I suggest you google the Immunization debate .

  Again my apologies and may I suggest you get more than two years of storage hidden.

Diana

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  • Mon, Jun 15, 2009 - 07:02am

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    Re: Readying Americans for Dangerous, Mandatory Vaccinations

 I do know  the PI’s do not require mandatory immunizations .  If this freedom  ,along with freedom to home education  and others( not allowed  to mention ),is taken away I will consider heading that way . Since my children recently returned from a m*****n trip there I am sure the lifestyle will not be changing much when TSHTF.   Passports  are ready ,flight takes 26 hours,  but the boat ride would be a bugger . Good thing my ancestors were  strong enough to withstand the trip on those little boats to the new world … plus oh my ,how ever did they survive without those shots.

Well I am fairly certain that they all survived without vaccinations.  What all did they endure for their freedoms !!!  

 Diana .

 

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    Is There an Underlying Vaccine Agenda?

[quote=Mr. Fri]

[quote=Mr. Fri]

When it comes to vaccinations, what’s the problem with them?  I’ve heard they have Hg which causes poisoning in the body.  Is that the main concern?  If so, would they be OK if manufactured without Hg?  Our state (TX) now requires more vaccinations for our kids before they go back to school next fall.  The argument is that the small percent of reactions outweighs spread of disease in the schools. Sounds reasonable to me but I know there’s another side to it.  Is there also a "conspiracy" concern that tptb are trying to kill off the kids or cut their lives short?  Can someone boil down the concerns of vaccines for me in a short paragraph or two?

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UUhhh… does anyone care to answer my question about vaccinations?

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Hi, Mr. Fri;

Sorry for the delay . . . . I’ve been so busy fending off the mosquitoes that I neglected to start the fire . . . . I thought I had posted this, but, I guess not . . . . luckily, it was still on my desktop:

Mr. Fri;
 

Yes, there are concerns about vaccines being used as part of a larger agenda. I am not an expert in this area, though I have done enough research to know that I will avoid accepting further vaccinations, even though it may prevent my practicing as an intensive care nurse. Hopefully, someone who is well versed on this topic will respond with the documentation you need to decide for yourself. There is substantial evidence that the mercury (in the form of thimerosal, ostensibly used as a preservative), has contributed to a variety of health problems. However, there are other, less substantiated concerns, which largely stem from the published intent of the UN (See Agenda 21) to reduce the world’s population. For reasons that extend far beyond the issue of vaccines, I would encourage you to research the "conspiracy" literature, so that you can judge for yourself whether there are those who have an agenda for you and your offspring with which you would not agree.  In this particular case, it is doubtful that you will find a "smoking gun" as evidence, as malevolent agendas are understandably not publicly acknowledged by the perpetrators, and evidence of harm is only obvious after the deed is done.  As with assessing the fellow who wants to take your daughter to the beach after the prom, it seems that erring on the safe side might result in less heartbreak later on. 
 

 

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