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  • Sun, May 01, 2011 - 04:03am

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    Tom Page

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    I picked a practically new

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  • Sun, May 01, 2011 - 04:11am

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    signalfire

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    Ditto on the 50 mpg

I have a 2007 Prius.  I regularly get 50 mpg and yes, it’s a 10 gallon tank.  My driving is mostly country roads and I-5 at 70 mph.   Unfortunately, I have been without a job now for over a year and am starting to have issues making the payments.  Thanks for the tip that I could possibly get a pretty good sales price on it if need be…

  • Mon, May 02, 2011 - 02:08am

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    SteveW

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    2010 Prius

I got a new 2010 Prius last year and I get 50 mpg in short (5-8 mile) local trips in the warmer weather (April through September in the Pacific Northwest). Running the ICE (internal combustion) warmup is a big fuel robber but for your 25 mile trip that won’t be an issue. AC is also a big fuel robber but that doesn’t affect me. One thing that helps economy is learning to drive the Prius. I watch folks get on my rear, zoom past and brake hard at the next light and wonder about their gas consumption while the Prius gives moment to moment feedback on its HSI (hybrid system indicator) display. You’ve already found the best SIG website.

A second hand Prius for a good price is a great buy. If its been properly driven the brakes should be hardly used because of regenerative braking. Mine only come on with a fairly emergency stop.

So far as extra battery packs go AFAIK they extend mileage to 80 – 100 mpg for about a 15 – 20 mile range (basically you can’t run the machine as EV only). I’m hoping that at some point secondary battery packs will become available allowing extended EV range which would allow me to go to EV only for my routine use, I suppose this would require a software upgrade. 

 

 

  • Mon, May 02, 2011 - 05:22pm

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    SailAway

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    2007 Prius / 2008 Civic CNG

I bought my  Prius new in 2007 and I love this car. I get ~47mpg.

4 months ago I sold my van and bought a 2008 Honda Civix GX CNG and it’s also a great second car perfect for commuting. I drives 50 miles per day and have a refill station on my way so it works great for me. I got an average of 35.8mpgs over the first 2480 miles and pay $2.15 per gallon. Range is ~180 to 200 miles. So it cost me around $12 for 200 miles, not bad these days.

 

  • Mon, May 02, 2011 - 08:03pm

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    Will

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    A non-hybrid alternative

For those not willing or capable of shelling out thousands of dollars for a good used or new hybrid, there is a much cheaper alterntive– buy a good used Civic, Corolla or near equivalent and re-learn how to drive more efficiently.

I have a 1993 Honda Civic that I bought new.  I used to get around 28mpg city and 40+ on the highway.  After re-learning to drive in a more fuel efficient way along with a few modest hypermiling techniques, I now get 40+ mpg in the city and on the highway.  I haven’t gotten less than 38 mpg in the last 2 years.

With over 185,000 miles on the odometer, the car still runs and drives excellent.  I have all the maintenance records as well.  If I sold this car today, someone would get them one very solid used economy car for a couple thousand dollars.  However, it’s not for sale and I will probably drive it until it starts to die of old age.  Should easily get another 100,000 miles out of it…

  • Mon, May 02, 2011 - 08:33pm

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    Ready

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    WVO?

JD,

Since your family in the restaurant biz, I gotta ask. What does your family do with any waste vegetable oil?

Did you know that with a little knowledge and a few parts, you can convert that oil into either biodiesel or run it straight once filtered in a properly equipped diesel vehicle?

FWIW, I get over 200 MPG in my Ford F350. I start and stop on diesel (actually biodiesel, which I make) and once up to temp run on waste veggi oil. Currently, I have over 1300 miles on this tank of diesel, and there is a lot left. I usually get over 5000 miles per tank. I also have a buddy who runs a VW bug tdi, but he is all city driving and only 10 minutes from work, so he only gets 100MPG on his setup. He doesn’t drive nearly as much as me, so 5 gallons a week from his local pizza joint fills all his needs.

For most, collecting the oil is a big hurdle. In your case, I would think you might be able to talk to owner into hooking you up!

Cheers,

R

  • Fri, May 06, 2011 - 05:51pm

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    James Knight

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    Diesel cars ‘better than hybrids’ for fuel efficiency

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1384129/Diesel-cars-better-hybrids-fuel-efficiency.html

  • Fri, Dec 23, 2011 - 10:46am

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    Peak Prosperity Admin

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    Several of the services,

Several of the services, most notably those in the United Kingdom and the United States, sell reports to dealers and then encourage the dealers to display the reports on their Internet sites.Used Toyota Hiace | Used Honda Fit | Used Hyundai Sonata

  • Fri, Dec 23, 2011 - 12:40pm

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    Peak Prosperity Admin

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    Diesel cars ‘better than hybrids’ for fuel efficiency

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1384129/Diesel-cars-better-hybrids-fuel-efficiency.html

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NO WAY would I buy a hybrid……. especially if your commute doesn’t involve much town driving which is where you will get the only advantage of electric drive.  Regardless, a car like the KIA Rio has a fuel economy of 88.3 MPG http://www.nextgreencar.com/view-car/31187/KIA-Rio-Diesel-Manual-6-speed/

Even accounting for the US’ smaller gallon, that is still 73.9 MPG (US).  And when the battery dies, it’s a typical off the shelf garden variety device, not the expensive hi-tech gizmos they put in hybrids.

In any case, I firmly believe we will start seeing serious fuel shortages within three years.  A hybrid with no fuel goes no further than a Hummer with no fuel!

Learn to drive with a feather foot instead of a lead foot.  I own a 2L gasoline Citroen with a 72L tank (~19 US Gall) and regularly get 1000km (600 miles) from it by simply never going over 50/55MPH, accelerating very slowly, and using fifth gear as much as possible.  I only buy 98 octane unleaded.

In winter last year I got 700 miles from a tank!  Not bad for a five seater 1.3 ton car……. and it only cost me $3500 to buy too.  You can buy a lot of gas with $20,000!

Mike

  • Fri, Dec 23, 2011 - 01:25pm

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    Peak Prosperity Admin

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    I’m with DTM

My mercedes diesel (1.5ton manual trans)was mfg. in ’77, regularly gets 35mpg and has required litlle more concentration of the earths precious resources since its birth date(forgive the anthropomorphization, it is a family member).

 

robie

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