ready to buy a hybrid vehicle :)
Savings are looking good and its nearing the time where I have to get a car for my spouse. She works close to our residence while I commute like crazy in a 530 BMW. (which my parents bought me in early 2007 because lawyers have to “drive nice cars”). The beamer is a beauty but its killing my pocketbook with its 16mpg. Given that my wife doesnt drive nearly as much as me I am going to be purchasing a 2007-2008 model prius or honda civic hybrid. I’ve been doing the necessary due diligence online and I’m hearing amazing things. With some battery modification I’m hearing that some prius drivers are getting close to 1000 miles per tank!
Username VABeachprius describes what he has done.
My current BMW has a 16 gallon tank that will get me 400 miles. A 8 gallon Prius tank can easily pump out a good 600-700 miles per tank.
I’m sure there are CM members that have hybrids that can share more information. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
I think you may find diesel easier to come by in any SHTF scenario, never mind that toyota batteries may be in short supply now due to problems in Japan. How about a diesel Volkswagen Golf? This will be almost as economical as a Prius, particularly if you get one with a start/stop engine.
thanks for the heads up on the VW golf
I’m finding some amazing steals on craigslist. I have a few auto monkey buddies that know EVERYTHING about the car sales business so they will be helping when I do decide to buy. Check out this 07 honda civic hybrid for $9500 with 75k miles by owner..
[quote]A 8 gallon Prius tank can easily pump out a good 600-700 miles per tank[/quote]
My Prius has a 10 Gallon tank, and I max out at around 500 miles.
Average or typical is more like 400.
That said, I was getting about 16 MpG in my old truck – that worked out to be about $300 a month in fuel (297, IIRC).
The Prius, averages about $75. The Car itself didn’t budge my insurance, so with a payment, I’m able to drive 2.5x more on the same amount of fuel, and the cost is about $25 more than I was paying driving the other vehicle. So, benefits:
-Great cruising range (400 Miles on 10 Gallons).
-New Car (able to save miles on my SHTF Rig)
-Trouble Free (Toyota covers Oil changes, and repairs for 2 yrs)
-Affordable – the PMNT is about $250/Mo.
I would advocate leasing one. Buying might not be the best CoA as the technology exists to create more efficient vehicles. This is an economic stopgap that’s subject to all the same laws of Planned Obsolescence.
Does anyone know why diesel is more expensive than gasoline? I thought it was less refined so shouldn’t it be cheaper?
I think years ago it was cheaper. Refineries grew up making roughly the same proportion of petrol to diesel as the proportion of cars to lorries. Then, certainly in Europe, everyone cottoned on that diesel cars were cheaper to run. This created scarcity of diesel, and so the laws of supply and demand increased its price.
We picked up a 2008 Prius last year for a very reasonable price, due to the “runaway Toyota” scares that were going around then.
We consistently get 54mpg driving on the country roads around here. Interstate long distance trips come in at 49-50 mpg, due to higher speeds. The vehicle is comfortable to drive on cross country trips, and has plenty of carrying capacity for our camping trips. Our Jeep Wrangler, which gets 16mpg, gets little use these days.
I’ve read the blogs where folks have added an extra battery module with plug-in capability and get close to 100mpg. It appears however that this is accomplished in stop and go city driving and frequent short trips. Because of the way the battery and engine work together, I doubt I could get a significant improvement in mileage because we don’t do much city driving.
We are very happy with the Prius. The only downside I can think of is that there is almost no owner maintenance that I would be comfortable doing. I have rebuilt several gas engines over the years, and this is the first time I ever saw an engine I don’t want to work on. If I were buying one today, I would definitely look for used, maybe bypassing the dealer. With the mess over in Japan, new car dealers are jacking up prices because production has been severely cut back. I suspect private sellers haven’t yet caught onto this dynamic.
I’ve been told that every barrel of oil can be refined into multiple types of products, including diesel and gas and other chemicals. The refineries can get more gas from the process than diesel, hence the added cost. This doesn’t explain why diesel used to cost substantially less, unless the refining capacity was switched to provide more gas to meet demand.
Anyway, my diesel GMC gets as high as 21 mpg on the highway. I wouldn’t get half that with a comparable horsepower gas engine, so I am still ahead despite the higher cost.
Thanks for the feedback. My commute is 35 miles each way, with a good 12 miles consisting of side streets and stop and go traffic, sp 70 miles daily which is costing me close to $20 per day in fuel alone. A prius is a MUST buy for me at his point as the car will use the battery when Im stop in go, possibly bringing the mpg in the mid 50s range. When I have a court appearance in any regional court forget it. To give you some background I began working and joined the real world 5 months ago and have been saving every dime in preparation. I believe that a high mpg vehicle is a MUST for anyone that lives in a US urban area. If supply is tight now imagine when prices hit the $6 gallon plus range. I’m seeing good deals on 07 models with 50k mileage and have seen reports of prius cabs pushing 250k miles.
Looking for private seller from owner and NOT a dealer as I called several just to a get feel for their offers and I was told 21-23k for prius 2008 model whereas by owner sales are averaging 14-16k.
I picked a practically new looking 2008 Prius in February for under 16k at a dealer. I’d been planning this for a couple years and this was total luck, just a couple weeks before the disaster in Japan, at which time dealer’s inventory of used Prius’s disapeared. The relief I felt about not having to rely on a 16 mpg truck all the time anymore was immense and immediate and I have zero regrets. I’m getting about 41 mpg with half city/half highway driving and would do better I’m sure with more conservative driving. When I look around at the traffic next to me the idea of not driving a high mpg vehicle when you have the choice just seems nuts now, and I wonder why it took me so long to make a move!