Rally point if PP goes down
I think I am a rebel. Every site I enjoy gets targeted at some point. And now I like this site and I’m sorry to bring the threat of internet anihilation with me. I see that you have cloudflare. Which is awesome. But they did censor once and although they pinky promised never to do it again, I think it would be prudent to prepare. I wonder if someone has an idea of a good place to rally. My GME stock site has a rally point on the Twitter of one of the mods. With a backup on the YouTube video gangnam style.
Maybe we can pick a place and just periodically remind people where to go if PP gets chernobyled.
25 years ago I would have suggested USENET groups.
19 years ago I would have suggested Google Groups.
But I’m not entirely sure what happened to News Groups, besides Google being given – at zero to little cost – USENET, about 20 years ago.
It’s late here, I’ve been doing research all afternoon and evening so have to get going and get some sleep.
Just wanted to say that my day job is in systems operations and I have the expertise to setup back end services like forums and such. Would be happy to lend a hand to get something setup if the need arises.
Does anyone have a discord channel? Or know how to create one?
Discord has been targeted twice when they were used as rally points for me. We had a discord server at reddit wuhan_flu. When wuhan_flu was nuked by reddit, a few days later the discord server went down. When I was investigating the voting irregularities in the 2020 elections, our discord server disintingrated under our feet and all of the members were deleted. And I think I’ve seen slack in the news targeting people who are original thinkers, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I was wrong. Element is good but it is harder to use.
Gab is sort of like facebook so it might be a possibility and they are truly independent. Maybe someone could ask the tech guy for pp for a plan?
Ultimately, is it worth thinking about old skool options like a magazine/newsletter, if things get really dire? The post might survive for a fairly long time. Combine it with Mots’ idea of something with an innocuous title focused on appropriate technology or whatever – something like Mother Earth News or Grassroots, with the more ‘sensitive’ material buried in amongst the rest. I guess it wouldn’t suit anyone who was going really grey since there would have to be a mailing list but it was a thought.
Yes! Old school eventually is the answer if censorship keeps getting worse. But I think we can do an in-between solution. It would be hard to get used to giving up the power of the internet. Ideas get fleshed out so much faster with more original input,
How much will the screws be tightened? There is already a trend, with AWS and Cloudflare for instance, to deny basic infrastructure as opposed to just “curating” off all public facing platforms. On the other hand, the approach is so far authoritarian rather than totalitarian. Voices are allowed to speak as long as not too many listen. Otherwise there is action. The approach used by Chinese dissidents to use western servers could be taken, setting up on infrastructure in China or Russia (or Sealand!) and hoping that any firewall is leaky.
I think the idea of an old school printed newsletter is excellent. Of course adapting always requires changing behavior but trading a backlit screen with all of its tracking, etc. for the benefits of staying connected and sharing information would certainly be worth the re-adapting to a simpler technology from the past, no?
I am sure there are smarter IT people out there than me(lowly E.E) but what about some blockchain encrypted/based newsletter/forum/server? I have to admit I am way behind on that stuff, but in principle we could distribute the data across our OWN PCs/NAS etc and that way make it very hard to “take down” any one area/person/site?
What say you? Thinking kind of like a torrent/ Napster esque? (Dating myself here)
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