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Questioning Election Integrity

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  • Mon, Aug 27, 2018 - 08:31pm

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    Time2help

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  • Tue, Aug 28, 2018 - 10:30pm

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    richcabot

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    Ohio was hacked by Bush in both 2000 and 2004

Hack may not be the right word as the vote tallys were changed by the election system adminstrator using a duplicate server in Tennessee.  2000 was the first time exit polls differed dramatically from the final results.  See for example>

https://freepress.org/article/new-court-filing-reveals-how-2004-ohio-pre

  • Sat, Sep 01, 2018 - 01:00pm

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    acesovereggs

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    Public hand counted ballots

Norway, Netherlands, Austria are countries that I know of that hand count ballots publicly.
It’s the only rational solution.
Our demand for convenience and everything RIGHT NOW supersedes civil liberties and logic.

  • Sat, Sep 01, 2018 - 06:46pm

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    skipr

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    what else is new?

First of all, I think the electoral college is a form of gerrymandering. Was it created to control the election outcome for the elites? I’ll let a statistician/historian answer that one. There’s an interesting site called blackboxvoting.org that gets into voter fraud quite extensively. Bev Harris, the site’s creator, has a video of her demonstrating to former presidential candidate Howard Dean how she was able to go right into Diebold’s unsecured FTP site and download their voting machine’s software. She sent this software to computer programming experts at various universities. They all found back doors through which to flip votes and who knows what else. She also found that each vote is recorded as a floating-point number instead of an integer. So, if the number of votes in a precinct is 100.1, it’s displayed as 100 while a 100.6 is displayed as 101. How this round off error is weighted probably depends upon how the elites want the vote to go. If they want democrats (Hillary?) to win, the registered dems will, on average, get a higher percentage of the 100.6 votes and vice versa. A side note: Diebold’s ATM software is open source while it’s vote counting (and flipping) software is not. Exit pole vote counting is statistically quite accurate in Germany but not in the US. They also have paper trails while we do not. Hmmm, is there a pattern here? Then there was Bush vs Gore fiasco in FL and the supreme court’s one-time-only decision to stop the vote count. Would 911 have happened if Gore managed to get in. I’m sure it would have even if Jesus/Buddha/Allah/Moses yada yada yada (choose your personal favorite) was voted in. Greg Palast gets into the nitty gritty of how legitimate voters are removed from the voting lists. One example: he found people who were eliminated because they had the same name as a registered felon in the neighborhood. And they “coincidently” resided in poorer neighborhoods. Those same neighborhoods also had waiting lines blocks long while the more affluent ones did not. I was once not allowed to vote locally unless I could produce two forms of ID. A driver’s license was not enough, though it is in highly secure airports. Luckily, I had a monthly water bill in my pocket and was allowed to vote. I read about a similar incident where a strong-willed woman was given the same treatment. She immediately called the sheriff’s office to report a felony. She was then allowed to vote before the sheriff got out of his chair. Whether it was actually counted is another matter. I could go on and on.

  • Tue, Nov 06, 2018 - 01:19pm

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    Mohammed Mast

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    Interesting

Yes the voting system is corrupt. Probably has been since the beginning. If you have a political system populated mainly with corrupt individuals I think the results will be corrupt.

You say the conversation we should be having is why exit polls are unreliable, well I would like to propose another conversation.

If were one to read Howard Zinn’s “People’s History” and observe our current political situation why would any sentient being wish to participate in a political system that when you peer under the skirt is nothing more than a fascist empire.

This country has been at war for 94% of its existence, We will be at war for the very distant foreseeable future. it was founded on land stolen from the native people, it was built with slaves, (Wall Street in the early days was a slave market, my how some things never change). Corporations now control virtually every aspect of our lives from our monetary system down to the information we receive.

Yet here we are still active participants in a system designed to enslave us and transfer our wealth to the elites. Orwell did not go near far enough.

 

  • Tue, Nov 06, 2018 - 03:40pm

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    VeganDB12

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    the old fashioned way

True story told today:

Voter went to poll, voting machines which for decades had always  been on the ground floor of a very large building not where they were expected. One poll worker manning the door said they came in to find everything was in a basement area, with limited elevator access, three stories below ground level and a long walk from there.  Predominantly blue state and polls in a strongly blue neighborhood. 

Early voters walked out without voting because the staff wasn’t prepared to post signs telling the voters where to go. Elderly and disabled discouraged as well.

Don’t know why this happened and neither do the poll workers who normally prepare months in advance for the elections.  Maybe just a clerical oversight but odd.

  • Tue, Nov 06, 2018 - 04:10pm

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    Electronical Voting

Electronic voting is like cryptocurrency without the cryptography. That is to say equivilant to e-mail and as has been repeatedly demonstrated, many of our politician don’t even understand how to secure their e-mail.

But I have FAITH [sic]

Kinda like a Christocurrency. (I claim TM and copyright on that and Jesuscoin)

  • Tue, Nov 06, 2018 - 05:21pm   (Reply to #16)

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    866-our-vote

866-OUR-VOTE: If you experience voter machine glitches, see voters being turned away from the poll, or run into other issues, report them to the nonpartisan Election Protection network. This is the only way that we can spot patterns, put pressure on election officials to respond and, in the long run, make the case for paper ballots and risk limiting audits.

  • Tue, Nov 06, 2018 - 05:40pm

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    “We have met the enemy, and he is us”

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

H.L. Mencken, On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe

“We the people” are the main problem.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/805931/lot-americans-are-hoping-google-tell-how-vote

  • Wed, Nov 07, 2018 - 11:28am   (Reply to #16)

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    VeganDB12

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    thank you

There have been a variety of problems in the area with the delivery of the machines (wrong scanners at another location that cost 3 hours of voters their vote). Local residents did speak up. 

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