Projekt Immanuel: Examining Virology From a Different Angle

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  • Sun, Jun 13, 2021 - 09:27am

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    Projekt Immanuel: Examining Virology From a Different Angle

I made a comment about this yesterday, but think this is fodder for its own discussion forum. My comment speaks to a new line of thinking about how/why the pandemic came about, which is an angle that I do not believe has been discussed here at PP. Here are two links and articles to get the exploration of this theory started:

Northern Tracey’s scribblings

https://projekt-immanuel.de/en/about-this-project/ 

PDF-The Virus Misconception Part 1

PDF-The Virus Misconception Part 2

 

 

 

 

 

  • Sun, Jun 13, 2021 - 10:31am

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    Projekt Immanuel: Examining Virology From a Different Angle

Thanks for the Northern Tracey link. Its so good to hear from sane individuals now and then.

Viruses are how the planet communicates with all aspects of life and we humans are doing everything we can disrupt that communication. Nothing good can possibly come of it.

Cheers!

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westcoastjan, this is exceedingly interesting, to say the least.

Something this controversial should be behind the paywall.
Just my two cents.

  • Sun, Jun 13, 2021 - 04:04pm   (Reply to #3)

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    Projekt Immanuel: Examining Virology From a Different Angle

Agreed, Steven!

PP Admin / Chris: is there anyway we can move this behind the paywall to enable us to let our hair down in what could become an interesting discussion about a controversial subject? If you are able to assist that would be great!

Cheers,

Jan

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    I can’t see this angle

Projekt Immanuel is a film-making project based on the work of Dr. Stefan Lanka, as described in the “Virus Misconception” pdf.  The opening sentence there is:

Contrary to what most people believe, pathogenic viruses do not exist.

What follows is a systematic attack on all research that’s ever been done on viruses since the 1950’s. Lanka complains about various shortcuts and assumptions.

Actually, perhaps those shortcuts were justified based on the science that was already known at the time? The existence of viruses as infectious agents had been known since 1892, when the tobacco mosaic virus was described by Dmitri Ivanovsky.

The idea that the entire science of virology has been completely on a wrong track since 1892, seems pretty unlikely to me.

And what I don’t see in Lanka’s work, is some sort of alternative theory about the cause of viral infectious diseases, if it isn’t viruses. Perhaps he’s hinting that toxins are responsible, but that doesn’t explain anything about the well-known transmission of infectious disease from person to person. Or perhaps he’s invoking the idea of the “terrain”, and certainly is true that the state of an individual’s immune system has tremendous influence over whether they fall ill when exposed to a virus. But again, without the virus, the illness doesn’t happen.

Chris Martenson’s content at this website is very heavily based on virology as a valid science. For example, he argues that SARS-cov2 is a virus that was developed in a lab employing gain-of-function technology. How could that even be possible, if there’s no such thing as a virus?

  • Thu, Jun 17, 2021 - 10:40am   (Reply to #5)

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    Projekt Immanuel: Examining Virology From a Different Angle

The point is to examine all ideas and evidence for plausibility. If we ignore findings without thoroughly examining and debating them because we have already bought into a different narrative, we do ourselves a disservice.

I am not saying this is valid. I am saying it is worth examining and discussing. If proven to be without merit, great.  If it turns out it does have merit, well, we have a whole new ballgame, don’t we?

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https://www.rosemaryfrei.ca/hiv-now-sets-the-pace-in-the-bogus-vaxx-race/

…All of this is despite the fact that HIV has not been detected by anything other than indirect methods such as antibody, T-cell and polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing. HIV also has not been clearly shown to cause disease. Nor has it been isolated or rigorously imaged via electron microscopy. Isolation is a necessary step before sequencing – because otherwise the resulting sequences reflect a heterogeneous mix of material rather than pure virus. Details on this are below.

This also holds true for the novel coronavirus.

Phalanxes of officials such as Fauci censor these inconvenient facts. And they keep the public captive, overloaded and off-balance with an avalanche of complex and contradictory jargon, modelling and scientific studies. …

“I would say there were hundreds of thousands of people killed by AZT. And many — perhaps most — of them were perfectly healthy before they were put on the drugs,” Lauritsen told me in a telephone interview from his home in Boston. “They got a positive result on the worthless HIV tests, and then they were told to put time on their side and take AZT. And of course it killed them.”

…There are hundreds of other key players in the parallel HIV-COVID play. You can use PubMed to look up the papers and conflicts of interest of prominent scientists in your area who have been among those pushing the Covid agenda.

They include everyone from the infamous Neil Ferguson to one of the two co-chairs of the Canadian COVID-19 Immunity Task Force, Catherine Hankins.

They’re all engaged in the gold rush for bogus ‘vaccines’ and other ‘treatments’ for an array of non-existent or benign conditions.

  • Mon, Jun 21, 2021 - 01:56pm   (Reply to #7)

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    Projekt Immanuel: Examining Virology From a Different Angle

I agree with some of what Rosemary Frei is saying. There were some very reputable scientists, including Peter Duesberg and Kary Mullis, who have questioned the narrative about HIV. The drug AZT might very well have been worse than the disease in most cases. Overall, the situation with HIV has many parallels with the COVID-19 situation.

But Duesberg agrees that HIV is a virus, and as far as I know even Mullis didn’t question the existence of viruses such as polio or influenza.

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