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  • Tue, Mar 31, 2020 - 12:31am

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    Fionn MacCumhaill

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    Predictions for Sweden’s approach?

Any predictions for the outcome of Sweden’s approach?

For me, Sweden has been a poster child for how not to run your country (e.g. they have imported a demographic time-bomb) but I remain open-minded as to how this situation could be handled.

 

Good article here:

All eyes on the Swedish coronavirus experiment

 

  • Tue, Mar 31, 2020 - 07:10am

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    Predictions for Sweden’s approach?

Chaos.  Death. Social unrest.  Violence.

  • Tue, Mar 31, 2020 - 09:50am

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Hm. Let’s look at the doubling times (cases) for a number of countries:

UK – 4 days
USA – 4-5 days
Canada – 4-5 days
Germany – 5-6 days
Netherlands – 5-6 days
Spain – 5-6 days
France – 6 days
Australia – 6 days
Sweden – 7 days
Norway – 8 days
Italy – 9-10 days
Denmark – 10 days

Let’s see where we are in a week or two.

  • Wed, Apr 01, 2020 - 01:48am

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We essentially have a real-world “A/B test” of Lockdown versus ‘let it run wild’.

I’m not surprised that such a Nihilistic society has been the one to opt for this rather callous experiment – but if they are correct they will be proven so in the next 30 days.

  • Wed, Apr 01, 2020 - 07:54am

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There’s already some apparent backtracking underway:

Having been one of the few European countries in the world not to impose a coronavirus lockdown, Sweden is now starting to abandon its liberal approach after a surge in deaths.

Up until now, Sweden had kept schools, bars, restaurants and cinemas open while only restricting gatherings that were over 50 people.

People were encouraged to observe social distancing measures, but there were no quarantine protocols enforced by force of law and unlike its Scandinavian neighbors, Sweden’s borders remained open.

Commentators warned that this was “like watching a horror movie” and that it would inevitably backfire.

Now that Sweden has recorded 239 COVID-19 deaths, more than Norway, Finland and Denmark combined, the country’s left-wing government is finally imposing a stronger form of lockdown.

“As the number of new cases and deaths from COVID-19 rises sharply in Sweden the government and the Public Health Agency have presented new measures for how people can further slow the spread of the novel coronavirus,” reports Radio Sweden.

The new “guidelines” encourage people to avoid public transport during rush hours, advise shops to stagger the number of people they let in, and tell sports clubs to cancel all upcoming matches and tournaments.

However, it doesn’t appear as though any of the measures will be enforced legally through police dispersal orders or fines.

  • Wed, Apr 01, 2020 - 10:44am

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There are not just two options, running wild versus total lockdown.

There is a middle way. Not letting the fire burn, but allowing it to glow.

https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42638988

  • Wed, Apr 01, 2020 - 08:18pm

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    Predictions for Sweden’s approach?

Swedon’s approach will lead to a lot of deaths in the high risk part of the population. It will also lead to an increase in the population’s immunity but the Government will be unlikely to be able to maintain this approach when the panic sets in

A better way would be to protect the high risk people and at the same time increase the immunity in the lower risk proportion of the population.

A carefully constructed program of inoculation of the low risk people( whilst in isolation until proven immune ) would build population immunity and work to protect those at high risk.

If this virus was to mutate (as the Spanish flu did) and increase it’s virulence ,then the population with the highest level of immunity will be the best placed to deal with this nightmare scenario.

  • Thu, Apr 02, 2020 - 10:13am

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A better way would be to protect the high risk people and at the same time increase the immunity in the lower risk proportion of the population.

Protect the vulnerable. That exactly is the Swedish approach. And it’s repeated every single day at the press conferences.

There has been some cases related to a funeral, and unfortunately there has also been some cases in retirement homes. That’s tragic but not unique for Sweden and not a sign the strategy won’t work.

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/vQjmGL/flera-smittade–var-pa-samma-begravninghttps://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/hundratals-smittade-av-covid-19-pa-aldreboenden-i-stockholmsregionen

I believe the biggest concern is not about the strategy but about the PPE availability – where Sweden faces the same kind of shortages as many other countries.

 

  • Fri, Apr 03, 2020 - 03:05pm

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Sweden has the correct approach.  The are choosing not to suspend life waiting for a vaccine that may never come.  Anders Tegnell is a rare voice of reason in this pandemic.

Other countries are enforcing martial law in some delusional hope that the virus will go away in the summer.  It won’t.  Young people, who have a greater chance dying on the way to the hospital for a test than from the virus itself, have had their lives turned upside down.  This winter every country currently in lock-down will still be in lock-down.  They will be in place for years.

 

  • Sun, Apr 12, 2020 - 08:17am

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Again.. I’m no fan of how Sweden is run.. but I’m willing to admit they may be in the right here:

Sweden records just SEVENTEEN new deaths from coronavirus – its lowest daily rise in a fortnight – as new infections plummet to only 466 cases

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8210677/Sweden-records-17-deaths-coronavirus-lowest-daily-rise-fortnight.html

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