POWERFUL: Coronavirus White Coats Summit 2 (Oct 16-17)

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  • Tue, Oct 20, 2020 - 02:39pm

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    POWERFUL: Coronavirus White Coats Summit 2 (Oct 16-17)

Here’s the highly censored video, while it lasts (can’t embed non-Youtube videos):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HLcg9n-WPs

Alternative link:

Some of you here may take slight issue with their stance on masks. They could’ve mentioned the positives of masks in addition to the negatives, but they’re spot on IMO: the negatives of masks (not in Jan-May but today) outweigh the benefits, when forced to be worn by government coercion coupled with the fear narrative. Indeed, “masks don’t control viruses, they control you” (while they censor ALL cures).

I also agree with one of them who says that “the way out of this” is to “reject the mask, the isolation, the lies”. And most importantly, reject fear as virtuous. Chronic fear is cowardice, never virtuous, and that idea is probably the single most pernicious aspect of the fear narrative, that unconscious people think that people who aren’t cowering in fear are harming others/the collective. “Let’s embrace real treatments, exercise, sunlight, vitamin D, zinc, hydroxychloroquine, everything we know that works.”

COMPLETELY AGREED, rejecting the MASK is not really dangerous to anyone but the narrative, and highly vulnerable people (particularly the elderly and immunocompromised) in certain circumstances. As we have seen in e.g. the White House outbreak, even without using the safe and effective treatments, it’s not really a major deal for a somewhat elderly population of politicians. Regardless of the degree of efficacy of masks, like these doctors correctly point out, they are IRRELEVANT now that we know what we know. They serve primarily to keep us in fear and waiting for an experimental vaccine which they’ll try to make mandatory just as they’ve made masks mandatory (in many places even everywhere outdoors at all times, against WHO guidelines). Wearing masks hides your facial gestures (the most important component of body language, an essential aspect of human communication), eliminates smiles (and oxytocin release in your fellow humans), reduces air quality (decreases oxygen and increases CO2), contributes to a totally unnecessary climate of fear, may generate depression unconsciously, and acts as a symbol of submission to government-media-pharma tyranny (who are suppressing the cures, destroying our economies and lives with lockdowns, and forcing us to wear masks instead, and far too late to actually be highly useful).

At some point down the line we’ll probably have to reject masks as a symbol of rejection of the fear narrative.

You don’t think so? Read The Covidian Cult:

One of the hallmarks of totalitarianism is mass conformity to a psychotic official narrative. Not a regular official narrative, like the “Cold War” or the “War on Terror” narratives. A totally delusional official narrative that has little or no connection to reality and that is contradicted by a preponderance of facts.
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Looking in from the dominant culture (or back through time in the case of the Nazis), the delusional nature of these official narratives is glaringly obvious to most rational people. What many people fail to understand is that to those who fall prey to them (whether individual cult members or entire totalitarian societies) such narratives do not register as psychotic. On the contrary, they feel entirely normal. Everything in their social “reality” reifies and reaffirms the narrative, and anything that challenges or contradicts it is perceived as an existential threat.
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Moreover, cult leaders will often radically change these narratives for no apparent reason [tbp note: such as on masks], forcing their cult members to abruptly forswear (and often even denounce as “heresy”) the beliefs they had previously been forced to profess, and behave as if they had never believed them, which causes their minds to further short circuit, until they eventually give up even trying to think rationally, and just mindlessly parrot whatever nonsensical gibberish the cult leader fills their heads with.
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If all this sounds familiar, good. Because the same techniques that most cult leaders use to control the minds of the members of their cults are used by totalitarian systems to control the minds of entire societies: Milieu Control, Loaded Language, Sacred Science, Demand for Purity, and other standard mind-control techniques. It can happen to pretty much any society, just as anyone can fall prey to a cult, given the right set of circumstances.

It is happening to most of our societies right now. An official narrative is being implemented. A totalitarian official narrative. A totally psychotic official narrative, no less delusional than that of the Nazis, or the Manson family, or any other cult.
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Their initiation into the Covidian Cult began in January, when the medical authorities and corporate media turned on The Fear with projections of hundreds of millions of deaths and fake photos of people dropping dead in the streets. The psychological conditioning has continued for months. The global masses have been subjected to a constant stream of propaganda, manufactured hysteria, wild speculation, conflicting directives, exaggerations, lies, and tawdry theatrical effects. Lockdowns. Emergency field hospitals and morgues. The singing-dancing NHS staff. Death trucks. Overflowing ICUs. Dead Covid babies. Manipulated statistics. Goon squads. Masks. And all the rest of it.

Eight months later, here we are. The Head of the Health Emergencies Program at the WHO has basically confirmed an IFR of 0.14%, approximately the same as the seasonal flu. And here are the latest survival rate estimates from the Center for Disease Control:

Age 0-19 … 99.997%
Age 20-49 … 99.98%
Age 50-69 … 99.5%
Age 70+ … 94.6% [tbp note: and that’s WITHOUT the effective treatments]

The “science” argument is officially over. An increasing number of doctors and medical experts are breaking ranks and explaining how the current mass hysteria over “cases” (which now includes perfectly healthy people) is essentially meaningless propaganda, for example, in this segment on ARD, one of the big mainstream German TV channels.

And then there is the existence of Sweden, and other countries which are not playing ball with the official Covid-19 narrative, which makes a mockery of the ongoing hysteria.
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I’m not going to go on debunking the narrative. The point is, the facts are all available. Not from “conspiracy theorist” websites. From mainstream outlets and medical experts. From the Center for Fucking Disease Control.

Which does not matter in the least, not to the members of the Covidian Cult. Facts do not matter to totalitarians and cult members. What matters is loyalty to the cult or the party.

Which means we have a serious problem, those of us to whom facts still matter, and who have been trying to use them to convince the Covidian cultists that they are wrong about the virus … for going on eight months at this point.

While it is crucial to continue reporting the facts and sharing them with as many people as possible — which is becoming increasingly difficult due to the censorship of alternative and social media — it is important to accept what we are up against. What we are up against is not a misunderstanding or a rational argument over scientific facts. It is a fanatical ideological movement. A global totalitarian movement … the first of its kind in human history.

And taking off our masks might end up being the act of saying NO, I’m not a member of the cult. It’s like in V for Vendetta but in reverse. I’m definitely not wearing masks where inappropriate, not even if I see cops. I’m looking forward to having a deep conversation with them (luckily I can afford any potential “fines”/extortions, unlike most people).

One way to think about it is this: How much damage do you do by not wearing a mask where inappropriate (generally outdoors), vs. how much damage do you do by contributing to the mass psychosis of the totalitarian cult by others who are fearful (because of the lies that you don’t believe but they do) seeing you with a mask on and thus also being one of the also-fearful/submissive/clueless/mind-controlled humans?

As Denis Rancourt put it:

Now in a situation like that the government is going to want to hide its crimes. This is criminal and it’s irresponsible and it was not based on science and they didn’t, you know, use their own experts, they went on what the world health [organization] was saying… they relied on that authority information [from the WHO], and so, you know, it’s starting to get close to a criminal act, and so you need to cover that up. And how do you cover that up? You convince everyone that this really was a dangerous pandemic. What’s the best way to convince everybody that we really had a killer here, that we came close to all dying and so on. What’s the best way? Well, convince them that they have to wear a face mask. If you as an individual are so frightened that you’re gonna go and put a face mask on in the middle of summer, you are personally investing in the belief of that lie. And that is a powerful psychological way of convincing you that there was this danger and that what we need to do to save ourselves is to wear that mask, and the government didn’t do anything wrong and they did the best they could and thank God they told us what to do… And so the mask, I believe that this is the reason the establishment is so, so vehement about wearing masks and is so stuck on this mask idea, because it is a way to invest us personally into this lie, and to get us acting this way. People think that what you believe motivates what you’re going to do, your action, but it also works the other way: your action largely creates what you believe, ok? If you agree to do something, because someone is scaring you or convincing you with false arguments, the fact of doing it, you’re going to be believing that lie. So I think that’s what the masks are about.

And the false argument is not that “masks don’t work” or “masks aren’t useful”, the false argument is that “we don’t have any effective treatments, so wear masks until we get a vaccine”.

  • Tue, Oct 20, 2020 - 06:30pm

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    POWERFUL: Coronavirus White Coats Summit 2 (Oct 16-17)

I like the idea of early and aggressive treatment. Yes it worked for the outbreak in DC. NY not so lucky.  DC has access to rapid testing (results within a day).

Still, I want these doctors to prove that they don’t wear PPE treating these patients.  Workers in the hospitals were demanding them in the spring because they feared for their own lives and the lives of their families.  While early and aggressive treatment is likely one answer to this scourge the reality is that few of us can get rapid testing to do it.

I do believe the lack of attention to early diagnosis and treatment has contributed mightily to the hysteria.   Regarding masks, I trust front line doctors and nurses on the utility of masks, the people risking their lives to help out, who think they work. That is a pretty good endorsement to me.  I want proof the docs in the video don’t use masks in the ICU.

  • Tue, Oct 20, 2020 - 08:25pm

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There is a lot of cross talk with respect to masks, and a current of absolutism about beliefs. A lot of people are partly right and partly wrong; I ‘believe’ masks are a benefit, as much as for the behaviour that goes with them. To be 95%  effective (N95 masks) in preventing any transmission; they have to be properly fitted and sized (rarely done outside an infectious disease unit) and are quite uncomfortable to wear for any period of time. Wearing a mask without (strict) good practice and routine is marginally benefial, and may only function to keep ones hands away from your face. Wearing it the way most politicians are seen, eg. not fitted around nose, nose showing, loose around neck, taking it on and off; it is for show only. Cloth masks commonly seen are comfortable to wear and pretty ineffective (goes with the comfort). If you keep some distance, outside, or with good ventilation, any ill fitting (or cloth) mask is probably just virtue signaling. If properly worn, they may reduce your inoculum if you meet a spreader, so I am for wearing one around strangers and crowds (as I am considered high risk). Having had a career in the OR, and ultimate responsibility for any breaches in aseptic technique, I feel there is more to be gained with education about mask wearing than enforcement of mask adornment.

  • Tue, Oct 20, 2020 - 10:32pm

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    here’s a reverse argument: RCT for masks

So Fauci tells us that we cannot possibly allow a treatment without first validating it using an RCT.  That’s his requirement.

So how about flipping the script: no mask requirements until we run an RCT on masks?  Same thing for social distancing.  Same thing for hand-washing.

No RCT – no recommendation from the CDC.

Let’s wait 12 months for these RCTs to finish, too.  Just like all the NIH studies on cheap drugs that might work.

Of course I’m not serious about it, but “the shoe on the other foot test” is a useful thought experiment.  It kinda paints a picture of what NIH has been up to.

  • Wed, Oct 21, 2020 - 01:44am

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Here is a link on Vimeo. The YouTube link was censored.

I agree with the the overall concept, but the delivery could have been better.
I wish they had focused more on early treatment with specifics ….That seems irrefutable.  Also they need to devote more time to vitamins and Nutraceuticals. Masks don’t kill people as compared to lack of early treatment. By focusing so much time on masks it  gives the media an opening to avoid the larger question of early treatment. This is primarily a PR war at this point and skillful communication is equally as important as being on the side of good science.  I’ll wear a mask at a large grocery store and consider it a minor inconvenience.  But I won’t deny myself early treatment, so I’ve got my HCQ and Ivermectin ready to go.

 

  • Wed, Oct 21, 2020 - 06:56am

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    AAAND it’s gone….

Amazing

  • Wed, Oct 21, 2020 - 07:17am

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    try this link

There are other links at brighteon as well.

https://www.brighteon.com/eb7fd1ab-cd53-4587-b11e-9c03b141e574

I agree they spent a lot of time on masks.

There was like 2.5 hours of content I didn’t sit through that used to be at the summit site, but is no longer available.  Not sure what happened – perhaps they blew out their bandwidth limit.  Or maybe their media server provider pulled the plug on them.

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    Brazilian Volunteer in vaccine trial has died

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  • Thu, Oct 22, 2020 - 06:10am

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@VeganDB12
I do believe the lack of attention to early diagnosis and treatment has contributed mightily to the hysteria. Regarding masks, I trust front line doctors and nurses on the utility of masks, the people risking their lives to help out, who think they work. That is a pretty good endorsement to me. I want proof the docs in the video don’t use masks in the ICU.

I can’t think of a place where it would be more appropriate to wear masks than ICUs. I’m pretty sure they’re not suggesting to not use masks in hospitals and other appropriate situations. In the open air outide is a very different situation, where it’s hardly at all about health and all about submission to the authoritarian enslavement agenda.


@2retired

If you keep some distance, outside, or with good ventilation, any ill fitting (or cloth) mask is probably just virtue signaling.

Yep, except in the many places where governments force people to wear them.

If properly worn, they may reduce your inoculum if you meet a spreader, so I am for wearing one around strangers and crowds (as I am considered high risk). Having had a career in the OR, and ultimate responsibility for any breaches in aseptic technique, I feel there is more to be gained with education about mask wearing than enforcement of mask adornment.

Exactly.

@Oliveoilguy
Here is a link on Vimeo. The YouTube link was censored.

Vimeo censored it too!!! It’s still on Bitchute and Brighteon of course.

I agree with the the overall concept, but the delivery could have been better.
I wish they had focused more on early treatment with specifics ….That seems irrefutable. Also they need to devote more time to vitamins and Nutraceuticals. Masks don’t kill people as compared to lack of early treatment. By focusing so much time on masks it gives the media an opening to avoid the larger question of early treatment. This is primarily a PR war at this point and skillful communication is equally as important as being on the side of good science.

Agreed. They also messed up a bit with the wind/sound quality. Hopefully they’ll up their game for the third summit.

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