Political Bias

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  • Sat, Jan 17, 2009 - 07:42pm

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    SAF

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    Political Bias

I think this series is well done and teaches important concepts.  If your goal is to educate you should make it more politically neutral.  In this chapter you complain about two wars plus tax cuts.  A not too subtle shot at Republicans.  If indeed you believe all economic problems are due to Republicans this point of view will alienate a large portion of the population.

 Your call. 

  • Sat, Jan 17, 2009 - 09:25pm

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[quote]If your goal is to educate you should make it more politically neutral.  In this chapter you complain about two wars plus tax cuts.  A not too subtle shot at Republicans. [/quote]

Whoa… I’m won’t presume to defend Chris, but as a conservative, and servicemen, it should be noted that historically Republicans have been anti-war for it’s outrageous cost in both finances and lives.

Intelligent use of resources is not a dramatic semantic leap from "conservative", and I would submit that it’s the Republicans who might want to rethink their strategy of pandering to a union of church and state, and prolonged interventionism on a global level. Their proposterous platform of preventing gay marriage, anti-abortion and prolonged war is going to be a death sentance; as these are all ideas that prevent individual liberty and apply ideals through force.

Personally, I find homosexuality and aboritions in conflict with my beliefs, but it is absolutely not my place to tell anyone else how to live.

Republicans have sold out conservatives. As conservatives, we need to re-orient the party that best represents us, before they have seperated themselves entirely from the conservative principles of financial responsibility, civil liberty and no-aggression.

Sorry if I’ve gotten a little "off topic", but this is something that should be interrogated by strong conservative minds before the next election. The "Neo-Cons" are facists who simply want to control through fear and oppression.

Cheers!

  • Sat, Jan 17, 2009 - 09:45pm

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    Re: Political Bias

The big wealthy business interests are what you should be concerned about not the politics.  The politicians are irrelevant and are there to give you the idea that you have the freedom of choice, You don’t.  It wasn’t the republicans or democrats who put us in the situation.  It was the "real owners" of this country.

Don’t get caught up in this two party paradigm we live in.  It’s all an illusion.  They are two sides of the same coin.  

I totally understand having your moral believes and values, but don’t think for a minute that these guys in Washington give a *#$$% about you or what party you are affiliated with.

I’m certainly not speaking for Chris, buy one thing I never got was a political agenda on this site.  I see him looking at the big picture here.  

Sorry for the rant 

 

  • Sat, Jan 17, 2009 - 10:05pm

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I have been impressed by Chris’s lack of political bias, at least in the CC.  He is very careful not to take political stances, as they would get in the way of his message.  You don’t have to be a liberal/progressive to conclude that Iraq has been disastrous and that Afghanistan has suffered because of this administration’s obsession with removing Sadam.  You don’t have to be a progressive/liberal to find this presidency the worst in history.

Besides, those who call themselves conservative these days are not conservative as I grew up to understand the term.  Aaron is absolutely right that today’s Republicans (at least the neocons) have abandoned conservative principles in favor of a sound bite strategy that has finally proved disastrous for the party.  As a lifelong progressive, I would really like to see the Republican party return to its conservative roots because we need a principled Republican party to productively work as the loyal opposition with the Obama administration and Democratic Congress in dealing with the tough times we are entering.  We have no time for political rancor. 

  • Sat, Jan 17, 2009 - 11:03pm

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As I recall the Crash Course, Chris had earlier made the point that wars are inflationary by virtue of the destruction of the products produced. Two wars plus tax cuts are facts, not partisan points. The truth isn’t partisan. I don’t see why Republicans should be offended by the truth, but I could understand a few feelings of guilt.

  • Sat, Jan 17, 2009 - 11:23pm

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    Chris Martenson

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    Re: Political Bias

By my recollection, both Democrats and Republicans voted overwhelmingly for the Afghanistan war and the Iraq war resolution.

And the tax cuts passed with a majority as well.

So it would not make sense for me to inject anything partisan here and I meant nothing by my statements about cutting taxes and conducting wars beyond the fact that those were fiscally reckless actions.  Assigning blame beyond that, especially in a partisan fashion, would be ineffective, divisive, and therefore counterproductive to the goals of this site. 

  • Sun, Jan 18, 2009 - 05:30am

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[quote=castlewp]Don’t get caught up in this two party paradigm we live in.  It’s all an illusion.  They are two sides of the same coin.  [/quote]

This is absolutely right. We now have the supposedly conservative republican party hijacked by Neo-Cons which represent anything but conservative values. Everything is upside as each individual politician simply aligns him or herself with whichever group or political party is likely to give them the most gain.

Interestingly enough, as long as the media and the donkeys and elephants can keep us in the 2 party mindset, the more both parties benefit. Frankly, I think this issue goes beyond political parties and gets into the very structure of the government. I don’t see any way possible that a centralized group of lawmakers can make laws that actually benefit or appeal to a significant percentage of the entire nation. In my opinion the Federal Government’s power needs to be greatly curtailed and the states, counties, and municipalities need to be re-empowered. This has nothing to do with which party is in power and everything to do with the location and scope of the power base.

Just my 2 cents.

Mike

  • Sun, Jan 18, 2009 - 05:38am

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By my recollection, both Democrats and Republicans voted overwhelmingly for the Afghanistan war and the Iraq war resolution.

And the tax cuts passed with a majority as well. [/quote]

And the Bailout Money.
*wince*

  • Sun, Jan 18, 2009 - 05:51am

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    Mike Pilat

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Exactly. How much "choice" was there in this past election when both of the mainstream candidates voted in favor of bailing out the banksters. I hope Americans feel a little betrayed by this because they should, especially as the overwhelming majority of Joe Sixpacks vehemently opposed the bailouts.

  • Sun, Jan 18, 2009 - 05:43pm

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    Re: Political Bias

This is about survival and is much bigger than Republicans vs Democrats, Right vs Left, Conservatives vs Liberals. Getting mired in 2 party politics is to lose sight of what really matters – you, your family, your community. I lost my last hope in the "system" when I, and most of the people in my district, implored our Congresswoman to vote against the "bailout." She knuckled under, just like most of them did. Whatever it is they are doing now or were doing before in Washington, it does not benefit any of us, except by accident. So let’s leave that behind and focus on the real issues.

Arthur

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