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  • Fri, Feb 19, 2010 - 03:34am

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    Plane Crash Suspect’s Online Diatribe

This is definately worth reading.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0218102stack1.html

  • Fri, Feb 19, 2010 - 04:37am

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Denninger’s accurate take on this.

“Should the people come to the conclusion that The Government is in fact a felon – should there be no enforcement at the state level, no real move to “take back” authority vested in The Constitution, returning it to the states and to rein in the crooks, subjecting them to the just desserts for their crimes, there is a very real risk that The People will decide that there is only one way to obtain justice: through the actions of their own hand.”

http://market-ticker.org/archives/1976-This-Is-How-It-Begins-Wanton-Violence.html

  • Fri, Feb 19, 2010 - 05:27am

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wow.

  • Fri, Feb 19, 2010 - 07:11am

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[quote=MarkM]

Denninger’s accurate take on this.

“Should the people come to the conclusion that The Government is in fact a felon – should there be no enforcement at the state level, no real move to “take back” authority vested in The Constitution, returning it to the states and to rein in the crooks, subjecting them to the just desserts for their crimes, there is a very real risk that The People will decide that there is only one way to obtain justice: through the actions of their own hand.”

http://market-ticker.org/archives/1976-This-Is-How-It-Begins-Wanton-Violence.html

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double wow!

  • Fri, Feb 19, 2010 - 09:12am

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As just watch to where the blame will be directed!

  • Fri, Feb 19, 2010 - 12:58pm

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I wonder how many more pissed off people like him know how to fly planes…..
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Wow. Powerful read. While I think his seemingly pro-communism, anti-capitalist sign-off at the end demonstrates a misunderstanding of some fundamental concepts, he certainly seems intelligent and thoughtful. You gotta think that this is going to start happening more and more often.

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When I heard about this and read what the guy wrote, I was immediately reminded of the oft-repeated words of Gerald Celente: “When people lose everything and they have nothing left to lose, they lose it.”

I am not here to defend the guy, nor am I trying to reinvent Anthony’s oration: But the pragmatic approach would be to try to understand what was going on with this guy. Simply put, I am certain that his sentiments in this country are not unique. And his level of desperation is not unique. He just reached a breaking point before the others. Of course, since our leaders are mostly egotists, they will not be able to admit that while this man’s actions were inappropriate, his concerns just *might possibly* have been legitimate. Likely, though, he will be labeled as “fringe,” “crazy,” “a total loner,” etc. to distract attention from the reasons for his concerns. This very response would virtually ensure that others follow in his footsteps, tragic though it may be.

It is the same way with more typical “terrorism.” Is it possible that there is at least just a little reason behind the attacks on us? We’re told the terrorists hate our freedoms. Perhaps. But I think they probably hate our imperial foreign policy more. This sentiment is confirmed to me by military vets that have been to bases around the world. Again, it might not all be black and white, but that statement cuts both ways as well. Perhaps the best way to reduce terrorism – in all its forms – is to have the humility to confront the root issues and determine if they are worthy of concern or not. This, however, must be done with a spirit of openness and not arrogance. Imagine that.

In short, I’d like to think that our system’s (read “status quo”) goal is to actually prevent these problems and to help people. But evidence suggests that that is not the case. The vested interests exist largely for the perpetuation of their own power, and will avoid actions that threaten this goal. Rather than this event being the root problem in and of itself, I view it as a manifestation and reflection of the root problems in our society. It is sad to see that we have gotten to this point.

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I skimmed the manifesto. 

Sounds like he made some decisions that he may have made differently and have been better off. Hind sight is of course 20/20.

For instance, I read he owned the 4 seater. I can’t understand how having a private plane can be acceptable to anyone who has had his/her retirement wiped out. Maybe it was a rented plane and the media was off.

Sounds like the IRS was a gotcha, no different then say surviving cancer with crappy insurance and winding up BK.

Sounds like he was mad that the childhood Santa, Tooth-Ferry, Easter-Bunny & Democracy fairytales are exactly that.

In any event I agree with Mike on what Celente says. The idiots at large are going to have to raise taxes as they did during GD-I. When people get pinched I think they are going to end up fitting that Celente mold. But what I have spent a lot of time contemplating is this: Is Celente’s equation missing something? A lot of people have lost more than this guy did and not lost it. Does the red pill factor into Celente’s equation?

 

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Davos –

I know you can appreciate the Cheney doctrine: Perception lags reality.

This guy made a number of missteps, yes. But he basically made it sound like his life has sucked for 20 years. Perhaps many of the people out there that have or are in the process of losing everything do not yet perceive the reality of their situation and their prospects for the future that they previously envisioned. If this is the case, then it is a more difficult issue because it can be difficult to predict just when perception will catch back up to reality.

Re: the red pill you speak of: I think disillusionment would be the key word to describe the emotion that people will feel when they eventually learn the truth. And this will test many people like they’ve never been tested before. This is a looming societal problem that is on the horizon and will be more and more clear as perceptions catch up. There will be more disillusionment with politics, foreign policy, the economy, you name it. Think about the emotions felt by those returning from Vietnam…ouch!

I think we’re in the midst of a long term, cultural shift. This could take decades to play out fully. I do hope, however, that individuals like Chris and ourselves can explain this to others and show them a better way before they completely lose it. If everyone starts doing what this man did, society will be much worse off and government will be ironically even more draconian. Intellect, rationality, and pragmatism will win, and this is why I support Chris.

 

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