Physicians Poll: Majority of Doctors not vaccinated

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  • Tue, Jul 27, 2021 - 03:59pm

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    Doug

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    sandpuppy

There is a point that I think needs to be clarified.  There are a number of people here who appear to believe that you are a physician, and therefore give your opinions greater weight than they give us ordinary plebes.  You can resolve that issue by simply saying whether you are a physician or not.  How about it?

  • Tue, Jul 27, 2021 - 04:01pm   (Reply to #32)

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    Disco Bear

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    Physicians Poll: Majority of Doctors not vaccinated

Uncucked_Canucks,  I believe I can offer an explanation for the age being listed as 1.08.  Notice that the date the report was entered is 2021-01-08.  It seems likely to me that somehow the data entry was corrupted or the same data, 01.08, was entered into two fields.

Your idea of analyzing the data is excellent, but I don’t believe that is the purpose of VAERS.  VAERS should report all suspected side effects of the vaccine and the let others analyze which side effects are definitely a result of the vaccinations and which are the result of random chance.

  • Tue, Jul 27, 2021 - 04:14pm

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To add a bit of perspective, this group, Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, is considered a fringe group by mainstream doctors.  A bit of an embarrassment.

I would suggest that at this point, the whole medical establishment is a profound embarrassment, with the exception of individual docs like Zelenko and McCullough (and all the others whose put the interest of their patients first, first, before money, fame, and even career).  My faith/trust in doctors is now punk.

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons https://aapsonline.org/

This is one of the only organizations that publish treatment protocols and Dr. Peter McCullough is part of it – so if this is fringe, then I’m with the fringe.

Look at the wiki page – nothing but negative assertions – really, not a single positive comment, but a leftwing diatribe against their views (note: no references to any thing disproving their hypotheses, just “I don’t like what your saying, so will call you names”; Wikipedia has indeed jumped the shark, totally discredited itself with hit pieces like this; it’s just another channel of disinformation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons

I know sandpuppy personally.  He is an emergency medicine physician.  He has been working in ERs recently and probably continues to do so.  I’m sure he will confirm.

  • Tue, Jul 27, 2021 - 04:16pm   (Reply to #41)

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I hereby attest that some years ago, my friend Sandpuppy wrote me a series of prescriptions for an array of antibiotics to be stored for emergency purposes.  He called my pharmacy to explain what the prescriptions were for.  Please don’t ask Sandpuppy to do this now as doctors are much more constrained and under the microscope than ever before.

Sandpuppy is a practicing ER doctor and as one might gather from his extensive writings here, a fantastically thoughtful and kind man.

Doug seems like a nice guy, but is a victim of mass psychosis induced by forces that he fails to consider or understand.  We embrace Doug because he represents many of our own friends, family members, and loved ones… we have to continue working to find bridges to reach them, even when they lash out at us.

  • Tue, Jul 27, 2021 - 04:16pm

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Your idea of analyzing the data is excellent, but I don’t believe that is the purpose of VAERS.  VAERS should report all suspected side effects of the vaccine and the let others analyze which side effects are definitely a result of the vaccinations and which are the result of random chance.

You mean they collect the data and then don’t do anything about it? Their website says that they monitor vaers for vaccine safety issues. That seems like what I want. But maybe their definition of monitor and mine are two different beasts.

I am still conflicted by the suicide report. The age is misreported and on that I base the contention that the data is noisy. As all self-reported data would be. I don’t know how open I would be to including as a side-effect. If there was acute onset of psychiatric conditions, that would be much easier to say yes to. But suicide is so complex, I wouldn’t know what data I would need to attribute it to a vaccine side-effect.

  • Tue, Jul 27, 2021 - 04:46pm   (Reply to #46)

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    Disco Bear

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    Physicians Poll: Majority of Doctors not vaccinated

Uncucked_Canucks,  if you exclude certain data because as you mentioned

I don’t know how open I would be to including as a side-effect.

you run the risk of filtering out important data before the analysis has even begun.

Let’s use the hypothetical example where there end up being dozens of suicide reports, but they get excluded from VAERS because analysts thought they couldn’t possibly be related to the vaccines. That would be an undesirable short circuiting of a potential real signal.

I’m advocating for a two step process.  The first step is the data accumulation and reporting of all adverse side effects being reported.  The second step would be to analyze the data and decide which are legitimately related to the vaccines and which aren’t.

Hopefully, suicide will turn out not to be a legitimate side effect.  But since we know that the spike protein can cause inflammation of various organs, and the brain is one organ, isn’t it possible that brain inflammation could trigger someone to become suicidal who otherwise wouldn’t be?

  • Tue, Jul 27, 2021 - 05:25pm

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    Physicians Poll: Majority of Doctors not vaccinated

I guess I was trying to figure out how a person’s action could be described as a symptom. So if I got into a car accident because of brain fog would that be a symptom? I am not trying to get rid of data I am trying to isolate what a symptom is. I really don’t know how symptoms are decided but thankfully that is someone else’s job. Cheers.

  • Tue, Jul 27, 2021 - 05:45pm

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    Physicians Poll: Majority of Doctors not vaccinated

To get those results, I went to https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php

and filled out the search terms like this:

“Suicide, completed” wasn’t listed that way so I probably didn’t capture all the suicide possibilities.

  • Tue, Jul 27, 2021 - 05:48pm

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    Rick

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    Sand-puppy

he helped us get prepared incase Covid struck our house. Because of him and Chris’s reporting we were able to have our supplies ready.  When my wife got very sick in a short period of time she pulled out our supplies and within a few hours was well on her way to “normal”.  I do not care if at the end of the day Covid is determined to be this terrible pandemic vs a plandemic or if IVM and HCQ are just terrible drugs we need to be able to ask questions, form opinions and make personal choices on our health care.

I think it is called Freedom.

Thank You Chris and Dr Sand-Puppy

Rick

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