Occupy Wall Street – a first hand assessment

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  • Mon, Oct 03, 2011 - 02:52pm

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    jumblies wrote: This chap

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This chap not heard of torches? Or porch lights? Or even waiting till daylight to show his decking? *sigh* I gave up after 90 seconds of blurry shadows.

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Those thoughts ran through my mind as well, but if you’ll wait for what he has to say about the banks, that’s the redeeming value.

  • Mon, Oct 03, 2011 - 02:59pm

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    Food for thought

 http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/occupy-wall-street-mass-economic-riots-are-now-here-and-america-will-never-be-the-same

  • Mon, Oct 03, 2011 - 03:27pm

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    darbikrash wrote: And here

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And here is the requisite Fox News response, first responders to subvert the movement into the the enemy and portray the protesters as anti-American….we’ve seen this movie before.

Hannity Tells Occupy Wall Street Protester ‘You Don’t Believe In Freedom’ | Today on his radio show, conservative host Sean Hannity interviewed an Occupy Wall Street protester named Heather, who attempted to explain the demonstrations through the Fox News host’s repeated interruptions. Hannity barely let her speak, instead taking time to engage in ad hominem attacks, calling her names like “Marxist” and telling her “you don’t believe in liberty, you don’t believe in freedom.” When Heather responded, “I’m definitely a person who takes things upon myself,” Hannity protested, starting to say, “no you don’t,” before telling her she wants to destroy America. Listen to the exchange:

 

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Freedom for whom? For corporations to game the system, ship jobs overseas, cut benefits, avoid taxation through offshore tax havens, funnel more profits to the upper echelon? Yes, they don’t want to continue the freedom of the banks and corporations to continue farming America and the world like one big serf plantation guided by a bought-and-paid-for bureaucracy and under the surveillance and enforcement of a security/police state.

  • Mon, Oct 03, 2011 - 05:44pm

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    Marine Vets Joining OccupyWallStreet

From the Reddit community, a discussion on OccupyWallStreet:

Calling All Military Veterans Of Reddit. We Took An Oath To Protect The People And The Constitution of the United States of America. Meet me on Wall St.
"I’m heading up there tonight in my dress blues. So far, 15 of my fellow marine buddies are meeting me there, also in Uniform."
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/kwtjl/calling_all_military_veterans_of_reddit_we_took/

One of the comments on that page:

"Former Marine here. What you are doing is right, but it is also possibly illegal. While I love the idea of a group of Marines, in uniform, backing down the NYPD thugs, I don’t want to see you guys get in trouble.

"Having said that, I believe the country is in dire straits and it needs ‘illegal’ actions to combat our domestic threats; the same threats all Marines swore to fight against.

"If you guys do get pounced on by the NYPD, be smart. Take the hits. Even if you can win the fight, LOSE IT. Video clips of NYPD beating on U.S. service men will go worldwide viral in about 30 minutes."

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  • Mon, Oct 03, 2011 - 11:24pm

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    OccupyWallStreet – The Marines are coming to NY?

Rumor has it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp-eapYpL8c

http://www.in5d.com/occupy-wall-street-the-marines-are-coming-to-protect-the-protestors.html

  • Tue, Oct 04, 2011 - 12:26am

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    Anti-Wall Street Protests Spreading

Anti-Wall Street Protests Spreading to Cities Large and Small

A lloose-knit populist campaign that started on Wall Street three weeks ago has spread to dozens of cities across the country, with protesters camped out in Los Angeles near City Hall, assembled before the Federal Reserve Bank in Chicago and marching through downtown Boston to rally against corporate greed, unemployment and the role of financial institutions in the economic crisis.

 

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Anti-Wall Street protesters gathered Monday outside the courthouse in Los Angeles where Michael Jackson’s doctor is on trial, hoping to maximize their media coverage.

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With little organization and a reliance on Facebook, Twitter and Google groups to share methods, the Occupy Wall Street campaign, as the prototype in New York is called, has clearly tapped into a deep vein of anger, experts in social movements said, bringing longtime crusaders against globalization and professional anarchists together with younger people frustrated by poor job prospects.

“Rants based on discontents are the first stage of any movement,” said Michael Kazin, a professor of history at Georgetown University. But he said it was unclear if the current protests would lead to a lasting movement, which would require the newly unleashed passions to be channeled into institutions and shaped into political goals.

Publicity surrounding the recent arrests of hundreds in New York, near Wall Street and on the Brooklyn Bridge, has only energized the campaign. This week, new rallies and in some cases urban encampments are planned for cities as disparate as Memphis, Tenn.; Hilo, Hawaii; Minneapolis; Baltimore; and McAllen, Tex., according to Occupy Together, an unofficial hub for the protests that lists dozens of coming demonstrations, including some in Europe and Japan.

In the nation’s capital, an Occupy D.C. movement began on Saturday, with plans to join forces on Thursday with a similar anticorporate and antiwar group, October 2011, for an encampment in a park near the White House.

About 100 mostly younger people, down from 400 over the weekend, were camped outside Los Angeles City Hall on Monday morning. Several dozen tents occupied the lawn along with a free-food station and a media center. People sat on blankets playing the guitar or bongo drums or meditating. Next to a “Food Not Bombs” sign, was another that read “Food Not Banks.”

At the donations table, Elise Whitaker, 21, a freelance script editor and film director, said the protesters were united in their desire for “a more equal economy.”

“I believe that I am not represented by the big interest groups and the big money corporations, which have increasing control of our money and our politics,” she said, adding that she was not against capitalism per se.

Javier Rodriguez, 24, a former student at Pasadena City College, held a sign that read “Down with the World Bank” in Spanish, and said he was anti-capitalist.

“The monetary system is not working,” he said. “The banks are here to steal from us. Everybody is in debt whether it’s medical bills or school or loans. People are getting fed up with it.”

In Chicago on Monday morning, about a dozen people outside the Federal Reserve Bank sat on the ground or lay in sleeping bags, surrounded by protest signs and hampers filled with donated food and blankets. The demonstrators, who have been in Chicago since Sept. 24, said they had collected so much food that they started giving the surplus to homeless people.

Each evening, the number of protesters swells as people come from school or work, and the group marches to Michigan Avenue.

“We all have different ideas about what this means, stopping corporate greed,” said Paul Bucklaw, 45. “For me, it’s about the banks.”

Sean Richards, 21, a junior studying environmental health at Illinois State University in Normal, said he dropped out of college on Friday and took a train to Chicago to demonstrate against oil companies.

He said he would continue sleeping on the street for “as long as it takes.”

Strategists on the left said they were buoyed by the outpouring of energy and hoped it would contribute to a newly powerful progressive movement. Robert Borosage, co-director of the Campaign for America’s Future, in Washington, noted that the Wall Street demonstrations followed protests in Wisconsin this year over efforts to suppress public employee unions and numerous rallies on economic and employment issues.

The new protesters have shown a remarkable commitment and have stayed nonviolent in the face of aggressive actions by the New York police, he said. “I think that as a result they really touched a chord among activists across the country.”

But if the movement is to have lasting impact, it will have to develop leaders and clear demands, said Nina Eliasoph, a professor of sociology at the University of Southern California.

With the country in such deep economic distress, almost everyone is forced to think about economics and politics, giving the new protests a “major emotional resonance,” she said.

“So there is a tension between this emotionally powerful movement,” she said, “and the emptiness of the message itself so far.”

Ashley Southall contributed reporting from Washington, Ian Lovett from Los Angeles and Steven Yaccino from Chicago.

  • Tue, Oct 04, 2011 - 11:40am

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    From Occupy to Withdraw

 

From Occupy to Withdraw: The Simple Plan to Let Wall Street Be Its Own Undoing

October 2, 2011

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What is needed is a simple plan that resonates with nearly all the People, regardless of political stripe.  And no matter what one’s background, nearly everyone is united in abject disgust at the reckless greed of Banksters run amok and its deleterious effects on the United States’ economy, political process, and national sovereignty.  Fortunately for the People, the very system of greed the Banksters established will be their own undoing.

 

While we have discussed the intricacies of the fractional reserve banking system elsewhere, all that must be understood here is that for each $10 deposited in a bank, only $1 is kept on reserve and $9 are lent out at interest in the form of loans to other people.  The bank is statistically confident that not everyone will arrive on the same day to withdraw their money, so they can keep this house of cards standing, making money hand over fist all along the way.  And typically speaking, the People will not come and withdraw their money all at once.  But we are now in atypical times, and a fervent, impassioned movement can turn mere shouts of protest into the seeds of watershed change.

The Withdrawal Plan:

  1. Each and every member of #Occupy commits to opening an account and depositing $100 at Bank of America (Bank #1 of 6).
  2. $90 of each deposit is quickly lent away by the bank.
  3. #OccupyWallStreet participants focus on spreading this one message; to current B of A customers, to newcomers, to Tea Partiers, to all who would listen and participate, over the next several months.
  4. On an undetermined day in the future, the call goes out: "Withdraw from Wall Street" (suggestion for the one to make "the call" is Max Keiser and/or Alex Jones).
  5. All participants immediately return to Bank of America, withdraw their $100, and close their accounts.
  6. Bank of America, overwhelmed by the sheer number of withdrawals, will not have enough money in reserve to cover all of them and will shut down, on the verge of collapse.  Other B of A depositors will not be injured by the run, as their money is insured by the FDIC.
  7. B of A will ask for bailouts, ultimately turning to the Federal Reserve to backstop them through money printing.
  8. The sham of the circus that is central banking will be thrown wide open into the teeth of a now VERY angry public, and any type of bailout of B of A may simply prove politically untenable.
  9. The first of the six mega-banks will fall, the sham of central and fractional reserve banking will be thoroughly exposed, and a public growing in awareness will remove their deposits from any Wall Street bank, in favor of local banks and credit unions which help their local communities.
  10. The Wall Street system will implode under the weight of its own greed, and the fraud which is the Federal Reserve will at last be undone, approximately 100 years after its creation.

From Protest to Action "It Has Never Been Easier"

As we have stated elsewhere, despite the disenfranchisement of the People in a political system almost completely given over to corruption, the power of the People is perhaps greater than at any time since the Revolution.  In the Information Age, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, and the ability to communicate this knowledge into actionable steps en masse is more powerful than ever.  We, the People, can simply "vote" through our everyday choices, whether that be what news outlets we listen to or which banking institutions we choose to patronize.

Want to take down the corrupt banking system which has lead to the serfdom of the masses?

Don’t occupy Wall Street. Withdraw from it.

  • Tue, Oct 04, 2011 - 12:09pm

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    Declaration: Occupy Wall Street Says What It Wants

Declaration: Occupy Wall Street Says What It Wants

Finally a fair and mostly accurate article from mainstream media (ABC).[quote]Warren compares Occupy Wall St., at this stage of its life, to the nascent Tea Party, when protesters were seeking a vehicle through which to express frustration with the Obama administration….

What’s different here? "The Tea Party seemed to be a movement of older Americans, more conservative, whiter," he says. OWS protesters "are younger, more diverse." They’ve got a sense of humor and they play better music. Some protesters Monday dressed as zombies so that financial workers could "see us reflecting the metaphor of their actions," according to OWS spokesman Patrick Bruner.[/quote] [quote]There are almost as many grievances as there are protesters. "We’re tired, we’re mad, and we’re standing up," protester Hero Vincent today told ABC News. He complains that the movement is "degraded" by the news media for not having a limited and well thought out set of goals. "Our constitution took a year to make," he says. " We’ve been here for three weeks, and we’re supposed to have an agenda? That makes no sense." [/quote][quote]Professor Yochai Benkler, co-director of Harvard University’s Berkman Center for Internet and Society, calls Occupy Wall Street still very much a movement in the making. "One of the beautiful things about it," he says, "is that it is a movement defining itself as it ‘becomes.’" [/quote][quote]If there is a single, clear theme, it’s this: Occupy Wall Street says it represents the interests of 99 percent of the American people, against the 1 percent it says controls 50 percent of the wealth. [/quote][quote]Scott says news organizations have been wrong to describe the movement as being made up of hippies and peace activists. "That’s not representative of all of us involved. We have students and young people, and the unemployed. But we also have families and the self-employed, who can make their own hours. It’s broader than anarchists and hippies." Scott says news organizations have been wrong to describe the movement as being made up of hippies and peace activists. "That’s not representative of all of us involved. We have students and young people, and the unemployed. But we also have families and the self-employed, who can make their own hours. It’s broader than anarchists and hippies." [/quote]

  • Tue, Oct 04, 2011 - 03:20pm

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    On Wall Street, a Protest

On Wall Street, a Protest Matures

[quote]Andrew Ross Sorkin, New York Times. From the best paid reporter at the NYT and lapdog to bankers. Notice the repeated and obvious effort to make the protestors seems potentially dangerous. source…[/quote]

  • Tue, Oct 04, 2011 - 04:06pm

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    It Only Takes 20 Minutes To Shift The Blame

Yep…

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