Occupy Wall Street – a first hand assessment

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  • Sat, Oct 08, 2011 - 09:13pm

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    Damnthematrix wrote:Eric

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Eric Cantor Condemns Occupy Wall Street ‘Mobs’: They’re ‘Pitting Americans Against Americans’

yeah, well….. who started it?  If it wasn’t for WS ‘Pitting Americans Against Americans’ we wouldn’t be "here" in the first place.  These people have totally lost touch with reality, and for a very very long time to boot.

If only I were in NY…

There’s plenty of support in Australia I can tell you!

Mike

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I saw that little speech on the tube.  If Cantor is agin it, there’s a 95% chance I’m fer it.

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  • Sat, Oct 08, 2011 - 10:01pm

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    Doug wrote:Damnthematrix

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Eric Cantor Condemns Occupy Wall Street ‘Mobs’: They’re ‘Pitting Americans Against Americans’

yeah, well….. who started it?  If it wasn’t for WS ‘Pitting Americans Against Americans’ we wouldn’t be "here" in the first place.  These people have totally lost touch with reality, and for a very very long time to boot.

If only I were in NY…

There’s plenty of support in Australia I can tell you!

Mike

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I saw that little speech on the tube.  If Cantor is agin it, there’s a 95% chance I’m fer it.

Doug[/quote]

Which ever side you are on, your side has been awaken by a few, as someone in an above post called in a non-derogatory way, "naive liberal arts students." These naive students have lifted the veil on our politicians, regardless of prejudices, for all to see that they are in the same boat as to whose interestes they put first and protect.

  • Sun, Oct 09, 2011 - 01:02am

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I think this thread is going to jump the shark soon. Because it’s kinda degenerated into argumentation already.

Once people start getting pissy and annoyed with each other, the thread is no longer productive. That said, here’s something for your alimentation, that we can all get behind.

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  • Sun, Oct 09, 2011 - 01:34am

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    Good reason they aren’t making specific demands

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/occupy-wall-st-bank-public-interest

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I think it’s a very strong point that they haven’t made specific demands… Their worry is that if they make specific demands, then the media and other people will make these particular demands the issue. That’s not the issue. The sense is that the financial system is dysfunctional as a system. That means that you can’t make a technocratic demand like “fix this,” or give a consumer protection law, or appoint Elizabeth Warren to the commission.

It’s much bigger than that. There’s an awareness that the whole financial system is dysfunctional… The government is in the hands of the financial lobbyists. That’s why it’s called Occupy Wall Street, because [Wall Street] essentially bought the electoral campaigns and bought the Obama administration. And I can tell you that there was an absolute disgust yesterday and today after Mr. Obama’s attempt to hijack the Occupy Wall Street demonstration by saying “here’s what I’m trying to do to help,” and then he gave a couple of lobbying statements written by his Wall Street financial lobbies…

They’re disgusted with the Obama administration, they’re disgusted with the Bush administration and the republicans, they’re disgusted with politics being for sale to the highest lobbyists. And they’re disgusted with the debt overhead… The system doesn’t work, and they don’t want to reduce this to a set of technocratic little fix its and paste-its.[/quote]

A fairly sophisticated approach that recognizes the universality of the real focus of the movement.  Although I do wish they would focus on frog marching thousands of criminal traders in chains to waiting paddy wagons.  That would be cathartic.

Doug

Headed out tomorrow to Occupy Dallas.

Looking forward to it. We really need to change some things in this country and it isn’t going to happen without effort even though a large part of me thinks that nothing can be done to prevent the train wreck that I feel lies ahead.  I will not dismiss those that have put forth the effort to get things started. Hopefully, I will be one of those "old guys" that will not be able to be labelled a "young pin head" as was done by a local conservative talk show host last week. Maybe I am just an old pinhead.

Trying to paddle and steer.

  • Sun, Oct 09, 2011 - 01:51am

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    MarkM wrote:Headed out

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Headed out tomorrow to Occupy Dallas.

Looking forward to it. We really need to change some things in this country and it isn’t going to happen without effort even though a large part of me thinks that nothing can be done to prevent the train wreck that I feel lies ahead.  I will not dismiss those that have put forth the effort to get things started. Hopefully, I will be one of those "old guys" that will not be able to be labelled a "young pin head" as was done by a local conservative talk show host last week. Maybe I am just an old pinhead.

Trying to paddle and steer.

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Good for you!

  • Sun, Oct 09, 2011 - 02:15am

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http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/occupy-wall-st-bank-public-interest

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I think it’s a very strong point that they haven’t made specific demands… Their worry is that if they make specific demands, then the media and other people will make these particular demands the issue. That’s not the issue. The sense is that the financial system is dysfunctional as a system. That means that you can’t make a technocratic demand like “fix this,” or give a consumer protection law, or appoint Elizabeth Warren to the commission.

It’s much bigger than that. There’s an awareness that the whole financial system is dysfunctional… The government is in the hands of the financial lobbyists. That’s why it’s called Occupy Wall Street, because [Wall Street] essentially bought the electoral campaigns and bought the Obama administration. And I can tell you that there was an absolute disgust yesterday and today after Mr. Obama’s attempt to hijack the Occupy Wall Street demonstration by saying “here’s what I’m trying to do to help,” and then he gave a couple of lobbying statements written by his Wall Street financial lobbies…

They’re disgusted with the Obama administration, they’re disgusted with the Bush administration and the republicans, they’re disgusted with politics being for sale to the highest lobbyists. And they’re disgusted with the debt overhead… The system doesn’t work, and they don’t want to reduce this to a set of technocratic little fix its and paste-its.[/quote]

A fairly sophisticated approach that recognizes the universality of the real focus of the movement.  Although I do wish they would focus on frog marching thousands of criminal traders in chains to waiting paddy wagons.  That would be cathartic.

Doug

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Actually, since they’re so predatorial and love competition so much, I think they should be rewarded with freedom.  I can envision the plot of a Stephen King movie where you take the top 1,000 (or multiples thereof) offenders and give them their freedom on, oh let’s say Henderson Island in the Pitcairn Islands.  They’re free to do whatever they want (grow food, hunt, fish, or if times get tough, even cannibalize … after all, that would be the ultimate in competition … eat or be eaten).  They’re even free to try to swim or float to the nearest major land masses thousands of miles away.  Yes, I think we should give them their freedom where they can predate and compete to their sociopathic little hearts’ content without disturbing the rest of us.

  • Sun, Oct 09, 2011 - 02:42am

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    ao wrote:Actually, since

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Actually, since they’re so predatorial and love competition so much, I think they should be rewarded with freedom.  I can envision the plot of a Stephen King movie where you take the top 1,000 (or multiples thereof) offenders and give them their freedom on, oh let’s say Henderson Island in the Pitcairn Islands.  They’re free to do whatever they want (grow food, hunt, fish, or if times get tough, even cannibalize … after all, that would be the ultimate in competition … eat or be eaten).  They’re even free to try to swim or float to the nearest major land masses thousands of miles away.  Yes, I think we should give them their freedom where they can predate and compete to their sociopathic little hearts’ content without disturbing the rest of us.

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I actually pitched a somewhat similar idea for a reality TV show in one thread almost 2 years ago… Bankster Island:

"Bankster Island" –  The hot new reality show where convicted banksters, Ponzi schemers, government officials, and Federal Reserve officials are sentenced to permanent exile on a remote desert island.  Each is given just a pocket knife, two matches, and a copy of Golding’s "Lord of the Flies".  You’ll get to watch as Ben Bernanke roots for grubs and termites in a rotten log, and see Larry Summers and Lloyd Blankfein argue on the best way to cook a rat.  You’ll laugh as Ken Lewis and Bernie Madoff ineffectively attempt to hunt wild boar with sharp sticks and rocks, eventually giving up and settle for stealing Bernanke’s grubs.  And you’ll see the excitement taken up a notch when Tim Geithner attempts to rule the island by force using Alan Greenspan’s eyeglasses and empty skull as his symbols of power, and his eventual fall from power as the older banksters band together and overpower him so they can feast on his young, tasty liver.  And as part of the audience participation portion of the program, dozens of lucky citizens are chosen each week to cruise around 1/2 mile offshore and party it up with the finest food, drink, and entertainment in full sight of the island’s new inhabitants.  And on those special occasions where escape is attempted, the party kicks into overdrive as the lucky citizens are given shotguns filled with rocksalt loads and hooked poles to capsize the escapees’ makeshift rafts and canoes.

Too bad all the networks have too much shared interests with the powerful financial interests.  This would probably be the only reality show I would consider watchable 

– Nickbert

  • Sun, Oct 09, 2011 - 03:00am

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    nickbert wrote:ao

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[quote=ao]

Actually, since they’re so predatorial and love competition so much, I think they should be rewarded with freedom.  I can envision the plot of a Stephen King movie where you take the top 1,000 (or multiples thereof) offenders and give them their freedom on, oh let’s say Henderson Island in the Pitcairn Islands.  They’re free to do whatever they want (grow food, hunt, fish, or if times get tough, even cannibalize … after all, that would be the ultimate in competition … eat or be eaten).  They’re even free to try to swim or float to the nearest major land masses thousands of miles away.  Yes, I think we should give them their freedom where they can predate and compete to their sociopathic little hearts’ content without disturbing the rest of us.

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I actually pitched a somewhat similar idea for a reality TV show in one thread almost 2 years ago… Bankster Island:

"Bankster Island" –  The hot new reality show where convicted banksters, Ponzi schemers, government officials, and Federal Reserve officials are sentenced to permanent exile on a remote desert island.  Each is given just a pocket knife, two matches, and a copy of Golding’s "Lord of the Flies".  You’ll get to watch as Ben Bernanke roots for grubs and termites in a rotten log, and see Larry Summers and Lloyd Blankfein argue on the best way to cook a rat.  You’ll laugh as Ken Lewis and Bernie Madoff ineffectively attempt to hunt wild boar with sharp sticks and rocks, eventually giving up and settle for stealing Bernanke’s grubs.  And you’ll see the excitement taken up a notch when Tim Geithner attempts to rule the island by force using Alan Greenspan’s eyeglasses and empty skull as his symbols of power, and his eventual fall from power as the older banksters band together and overpower him so they can feast on his young, tasty liver.  And as part of the audience participation portion of the program, dozens of lucky citizens are chosen each week to cruise around 1/2 mile offshore and party it up with the finest food, drink, and entertainment in full sight of the island’s new inhabitants.  And on those special occasions where escape is attempted, the party kicks into overdrive as the lucky citizens are given shotguns filled with rocksalt loads and hooked poles to capsize the escapees’ makeshift rafts and canoes.

Too bad all the networks have too much shared interests with the powerful financial interests.  This would probably be the only reality show I would consider watchable 

– Nickbert

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LOL.  Much more fleshed out than my idea.  I love it!  I’m sure it would be a MSM hit.

  • Sun, Oct 09, 2011 - 12:26pm

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    Demonization in Full Swing

HA Ha!. Another derogatory and polarizing article featured on the front of Google News:

Column: Can’t wait for Occupy Detroit

I can’t wait for the menagerie of malcontents who call themselves Occupy Wall Street to arrive in Detroit and other mainstream American cities.

It will be good for real Americans to get a look at the folks President Barack Obama says represent their frustration with the condition of the country.

Occupy Wall Street’s main objective, from what I can make out from the inchoate signage, is the destruction of capitalism (a goal to which Obama can relate), although on a whim they can switch to global warming, medical marijuana or any number of other pet causes dear to the disaffected Left.

Clearly, they’re angry with America, resent its founding values and would like to see the fat cats who run the place boiled in oil.

Or at least that’s what they’re Twittering.

Obama, asked about the budding movement last week, said he "sympathized" with Occupy Wall Street — not surprising, since they share a donor base.

And he opined that they are speaking for the great body of Americans who resent that some people have nice stuff and others don’t, and are counting on him to play Robin Hood.

It’s odd that such a small and predictable group could grab the president’s attention.

He didn’t seem to hear anything of value when tens of thousands of tea partiers were pouring into the streets to protest exploding deficits and Washington’s fiscal recklessness.

He certainly didn’t sympathize with those Americans. Nor did he accept that they represented the country’s broader discontent.

And while the president and his media horde heard every whisper from a tea party rally that sounded like a threat or suggested racist undertones, they seem blissfully ignorant of the vicious and hateful side of Occupy Wall Street.

This is far from a peaceful protest. Cops in New York are arresting the increasingly violent activists by the hundreds.

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20111009/OPINION03/110090308/Column–Can’t-wait-for-Occupy-Detroit#ixzz1aHncKN6M

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