“Nu” …..possible name for Botswana Variant

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    “Nu” …..possible name for Botswana Variant

If I wanted to sell more vaccines I might promote fear of a new variant. ……Just Saying…….

Concern is rising over the B.1.1.529 variant found in South African and Botswana. Supposedly this variant has 10 mutations from the Alpha as opposed to 3 mutations in the Delta.

England has already placed quarantine restrictions on those flying in from certain African Countries. There is a meeting today to decide if this Variant gets it’s own name……Some are proposing “Nu” as the possible Greek name.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/25/world/variant-south-africa-covid.html

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03552-w

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/b11529-covid-strain-found-in-south-africa-botswana-hong-kong-and-scientists-raise-alarm

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    “Nu” …..possible name for Botswana Variant

The alarmist Feigl-Ding ( which by the way sounds a lot like the German word for coward, feigling, what’s in a name?) has been yelling on the Twitters that this new variant may be up to 500% more contagious relative to Delta.

So given that Delta has an Rnaught between 5 and 8, point value 6, where does that put Rnaught for Nu? Can anyone with a calculator and a degree in virology do that math for me?  My guess would be a bit more than three times double so point value Rnaught over 9 but awaiting the real math.

 

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    “Nu” …..possible name for Botswana Variant

If this is true, we should have heard immunity shortly.
Perhaps we already do, and each new variant is like a new flu season. I’m not scared.

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    “Nu” …..possible name for Botswana Variant

Perfect name. “Nu” is also a Yiddish word. It has a number of meanings as it can be used to express different things but mostly think if it as shrugging your shoulders and thinking “so what”, “whatever “, “well duh” or “of course”. 😉

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Here is some info on B.1.1.529 from Jeffrey Barrett:

https://twitter.com/jcbarret/status/1463975708770897923?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Why do I think that these variants of concern are deliberate releases.

Does anyone else think the same or does someone know better?

Think of the mutations, their timing and place.

The original virus release was timed to get rid of Trump.

No host animal, no lab leak. Deliberate release. Maybe the Chinese are right that the CCP or the Wuhan lab had nothing to do with the spread of it. If deliberate, Wuhan would be have been the prime spot for TPTB to release it.

Alpha Variant (UK Variant) B.1.1.7 was needed for fear to kick-start vaccinations.

There was (a) wide spread conundrum of almost no disease in the African continent (and most of it in just one country – South Africa) and (b) openings and waning interest in the rest of the world. Enter Botswana B.1.1.529.

The mainstream narrative changing from host animal to lab leak was just smoke and mirrors. In reality there had been a deliberate release.

We need intelligence agencies and the criminal police to pick this up.

Just round up all the suspects and interrogate them to start with.

 

  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 10:39am

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    “Nu” …..possible name for Botswana Variant

imo, it’s a cover for the coming vaccine deaths. they’ll be able to point to the new ‘variant’ and say that with ’32 mutations’ (only on paper), the current vaccines don’t protect against it.

sounds to me to be another confirmation that we’ll see *huge* numbers of vaccine deaths this coming winter.

TPTB will have to isolate the unvaccinated asap to remove the control group from the public eye.

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    “Nu” …..possible name for Botswana Variant

See the post from Adam B “The Plot sickens in Botaswana” with tweet from the Botswana ministry of health.

  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 11:06am

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    “Nu” …..possible name for Botswana Variant

Botswana has managed to vaccinate 21.5% of their adult population against a disease that has killed only 709 people in that country so far. In a year and a half of global pandemic. In a country of 1.9 million adults who on an annual basis see more people starve to death than have died of the disease.

Their best defense is the anti-malarial treatments that are ubiquitous in that country. And that is the very thing that has kept their Covid numbers so low, aggressive prophylaxis against a REAL disease. Plus plenty of sunlight.

As you recall, most variants have arisen from countries just starting their vaccination campaigns. The so called Brazil variant emerged after Sao Paulo implemented its vaccine mandate using sinovax. The Indian variant arose in the region where manufacturing of astra zeneca vaccine was produced and pushed heavily. All other mutations, driven by natural selection, in a population adapted to a virus that had become less virulent as the filter of population and individual antibodies of largely homogenized populations encourage its mortality to wane, then jumpstarted again by a non-sterilizing vaccine that selects only for the oldest variant on record and enables newer mutations to occupy a larger space in the human petri dish.

If you follow the dates on the links, you can see the pattern quite clearly, that first vaccine testing, then VOCs emerge. Then widespread vaccination and immediately a surge. The vaccine IS the pandemic, and with Botswana’s increase in vaccination, it will see a surge and likely one that selects for variants that are able to overcome the HCQ prophylaxis they use already.

Based on that alone I would say that this one will be a quick spreader, difficult to control, and likely to affect equitorial countries much more than previously.

  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 08:12pm

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    South African doctor: “So far, what we have seen is very mild cases.”

Here is a nugget of information to add to the mix:

On Friday, Dr Angelique Coetzee, who chairs the South African Medical Association, described the travel restrictions imposed on the country as “hasty” and the reaction from other countries as “a storm in a teacup”. Dr Coetzee asked why everyone was “up in arms” and said: “So far, what we have seen is very mild cases.”

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/26/new-covid-variant-less-worrying-delta-says-prof-chris-whitty/

 

  • Fri, Nov 26, 2021 - 09:27pm   (Reply to #9)

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    “Nu” …..possible name for Botswana Variant

if you follow the dates on the links, you can see the pattern quite clearly, that first vaccine testing, then VOCs emerge.

the vaccines *are* the virus, so it stands to reason that there will be VOC’s and outbreaks wherever there is mass vaccination.

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