North Korea renounces 1953 truce

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  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 02:52am

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    Re: North Korea renounces 1953 truce

[quote=Patrick Brown]

Agitating Prop:  There is nothing that justifies Kim Jong Ill’s actions.  The man is a ruthless tyrant who has starved and murdered millions of his own people.  Stop trying to justify every evil in the world by whatever left-wing kook conspiracy theory dishrags you want to throw at the US.  Last time I checked, we’ve done a lot of good as well. 

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Where did I say his human rights record is justified? I was drawing a parallel between his record and the record of  U.S  presidents. As far as kook conspiracy theories, Dude, have you actually read Chris’s stuff? What part of political economy don’t you understand? If Americans such as yourself are becoming all delicate about human rights, go after Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc…etc… Israel–go after Israel.

  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 03:10am

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Agitating,

Your name says it all.
I’m calling you for a troll.

This forum is not for blame-placing, flaming or outbursts of uncontrollable dischord.
From what I gather in my time here, it’s a place for rational, reasonable conversation.

Instead of weak condescention, why don’t you try explaining the "political economy" to poor Pat.

From what I know of him, I’d venture to say he’s one of the sharpest people around here.
You’re in serious need of a brain-to-keyboard filter, and if you absolutely can’t control yourself, and have to talk down about a nation and its citizens – see yourself out.

Aaron

  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 03:11am

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[quote=nickbert]

agitating prop-

Yes I can easily blame little Kim Jong Il.  Even putting aside the horrible things his government has already done for a second (and that’s a whopping huge list), he (or his generals, whoever happens to currently be in charge over there) is putting his nation’s people and many others at risk for what is likely a very dangerous gamble to blackmail other nations for various concessions.  Do mistakes by the US and other nations make putting your own people at incredible risk for the sake of a political power play ok?  Please realize that one side doing something wrong doesn’t put the other side automatically and always in the right.  And finally, North Korea even without nukes has enough conventional armaments to do a lot of damage to South Korea if attacked, and doesn’t need nukes to deter US and South Korean forces from invading on a whim… in other words, they can make such a war more costly than the other nations are willing to pay in most cases.  And North Korea developing a few nukes for personal defense is not so much the issue, as is its penchant for distributing dangerous technologies to anyone who can pay.  It’s obvious you have an axe to grind with the US, and while there may be a few points I would agree with you on regarding US policy in recent years, looking at this through that kind of lens seems to be giving you a very narrow perspective.  And yes you have every right to an opinion, but please try to keep it more on topic with respect to North Korea and these events…. the war on drugs, gangs in Vancouver, and the like is rather off topic.

investorzzo-

I too wonder if Kim Jong Il is still in charge.  Perhaps he may still be their leader, but most state decisions are now being made by others.  But I can’t see this as being an intentional distraction from the economy or US currency collapse or the like.  IMO North Korea is a wild card in the truest sense, and with that country being so closed off from the rest of the world it’s hard to see how anyone else, even China, could influence their actions to that degree.  Though I can see Patrick’s notion of China and North Korea putting this scheme together as somewhat possible, though my question would be what would North Korea get out of the deal?

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Li’l Kim isn’t putting his people at risk. Not having nukes while eschewing the crushing embrace of American corporatism, masquerading as goodwill is putting your people at risk. He’s no more likely to use these weapons offensively than any other nation. As a matter of fact, much less so. Use your head, he’s an odd looking and curious little doofus.  Should he launch on South Korea,  he will instantly become a strange looking little cinder, minus the goofy hair, or a grease spot atop a sea of glass. Think he’s going to push the button mistakenly thinking he might get a pinata of goodies, as a reward, instead?

I have an axe to grind with the U.S.? Gee–I wonder why that would be. I have an axe to grind with the Anglo American elites, the Russian mafia, international covert intelligence agencies, the obnoxious people who are currently running Israel and Chinese powers that be, who seem to have a penchant for capital punishment followed by grinding up corpses to make skin cream. That good enough for  you?

  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 03:14am

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[quote=Aaron Moyer]

Agitating,

Your name says it all.
I’m calling you for a troll.

This forum is not for blame-placing, flaming or outbursts of uncontrollable dischord.
From what I gather in my time here, it’s a place for rational, reasonable conversation.

Instead of weak condescention, why don’t you try explaining the "political economy" to poor Pat.

From what I know of him, I’d venture to say he’s one of the sharpest people around here.
You’re in serious need of a brain-to-keyboard filter, and if you absolutely can’t control yourself, and have to talk down about a nation and its citizens – see yourself out.

Aaron

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Are you a moderator?

  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 03:23am

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Nope. Quite content to let you ramble about how it’s ok for North Korea to have nukes, even if I were.

You’re doing the moderators work for them.

This in particular is a Gem:
[quote]I have an axe to grind with the U.S.? Gee–I wonder why that would be. I have an axe to grind with the Anglo American elites, the Russian mafia, international covert intelligence agencies, the obnoxious people who are currently running Israel and Chinese powers that be, who seem to have a penchant for capital punishment followed by grinding up corpses to make skin cream. That good enough for  you?[/quote]

Yeaaaaaaaaah. You’re up to 8 posts, not one of them so far has been useful, constructive, informative or decent.

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  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 03:29am

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[quote=Aaron Moyer]

Nope. Quite content to let you ramble about how it’s ok for North Korea to have nukes, even if I were.

You’re doing the moderators work for them.

This in particular is a Gem:
[quote]I have an axe to grind with the U.S.? Gee–I wonder why that would be. I have an axe to grind with the Anglo American elites, the Russian mafia, international covert intelligence agencies, the obnoxious people who are currently running Israel and Chinese powers that be, who seem to have a penchant for capital punishment followed by grinding up corpses to make skin cream. That good enough for  you?[/quote]

Yeaaaaaaaaah. You’re up to 8 posts, not one of them so far has been useful, constructive, informative or decent.

Aaron

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Tell me, what do you dislike more, my style or the fact that I simply don’t agree with you?

  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 03:39am

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The fact that you’re unwilling to examine facts, and prefer to throw out colorful conjecture that’s unproductive and intentionally provocational. It’s my opinion that you’re already in over your head in claims you can’t substantiate and I believe your stay here will be short.

As to your "style", I’d venture to say you have none.
Style would be approaching topics with facts, situations, scenarios, credible evidence and a reputation for using such things in supporting your ideas.

In addition to that, a tone that is respectful couldn’t hurt.

You’ve been a member for 8 hours, you’ve made as many posts, and again – you’ve said nothing of substance, other than a rant that degrades racially and nationally and accused Israels approach to defending itself against radical islamofascism of being a crime against humanity.

I’m not sure where you’re getting your information, and I’m again unsure of what exactly it is you stand for.
Perhaps you should consider that you’re an anonymous name amongst a board of people who either have deep respect for one another or at least have the courtesy of politely disagreeing.

This forum is self-moderated by people who go by their real names because we’re not looking for trouble, arguements or a place to fire anonymous shots at other members for their thoughts.

A proper introduction on the "Reader Survey" thread, and a bit of musing on the old Native American adage of "Two ears, one mouth – listen twice as much as you talk" might do you some good.

Aaron

  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 03:45am

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Agitating Prop

 

How about trying to find something useful to contribute instead of just trying to flame everyone.

 

 

  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 04:11am

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[quote=agitating prop]

(Kim Jong Il [corrected to remove supercilious vernacular]) isn’t putting his people at risk. 

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Apart from the millions dead from starvation.  He’s like Stalin, only he can’t grow a legitimate moustache.  

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  • Fri, May 29, 2009 - 04:13am

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[quote=SagerXX]

[quote=agitating prop]

(Kim Jong Il [corrected to remove supercilious vernacular]) isn’t putting his people at risk. 

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Apart from the millions dead from starvation.  He’s like Stalin, only he can’t grow a legitimate moustache.  

Sager

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And let’s face it:  while we’re here batting this subject back’n’forth, the looting continues.  
 

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