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Looming Mental Health Collapse – U.S: 5% Of World Pop, 2/3rds Of All Psych Meds, 1 in 10 on Anti-Depressants

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  • Thu, Mar 21, 2013 - 01:14pm

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    Greg Snedeker

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    Whitacre

Arthur,

Thank you for mentioning Whitacre. I asked earlier if anyone had read his "Anatomy of an Epidemic" and got no response. It's an eye opening book on how the different generations of psychopharmaceuticals developed and how the marketing of these drugs has caused an explosion in the use of these drugs. What's sad is how many children are being put on neuroleptics long-term only to find that they can't go off them.

One of the main points of the book is that there is no concrete evidence that diagnoses such as ADHD, depression, OCD, etc. are caused by a chemical imbalance, contrary to the narrative built through the marketing and advertising by big Pharmas. In fact, it appears when patients stay on these drugs long-term those drugs can actually CREATE a chemical imbalance in the brain that may be permanent. Prescription cocktails combining anti-seizure, mood stabilizers, and anti-depressants are very common in our secondary schools now. When the student is acting up, the behavior is often referred back to the psychiatrist who then ups their meds. As the synaptic gap gets perturbed by these drugs, they can create a tonic effect on the brain, but when the student/patient goes off the meds, the effect on the brain is similar to releasing the brake while having the gas pedal pegged to the floor. The doctor responds by saying…"see, the drugs were working…we need to put you back on them."

Being on these drugs long-term can often increase the rate of symptomatic episodes, also causing the psychiatrist to up the meds, or introduce more meds (cocktail), all the while, the drug companies make billions.

After reading it, I'm convinced I will not allow any physician to prescribe these for my daughter if the situation ever arises (she's fine now, but hell, I wasn't the easiest kid when I was between 9 – 14, so who knows when things can change).

I would recommend to anyone that they ask a lot of questions before taking any neuroleptics and find out what is considered to be short and long-term usage of any drug. Short-term use seems to be less detrimental, but where is the line between short and long-term?

  • Thu, Mar 21, 2013 - 02:22pm

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    Thank you Andy.

Thank you for doing the background research for me Andy. I was relying on my memory.

However the exact length of time is a pedantic distraction from the main thrust of Whitacres book. 

Whitacre will cure your naivety.

If, however you are reluctant to buy and read his pulitzer award winning expose then perhaps this video might go some way to convincing you that by Law the shareholders interests come before the interests of the patients. Which is just peachy if you are a shareholder.

 

 

  • Thu, Mar 21, 2013 - 02:35pm

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    From Experience Gillbilly.

I speak from experience Gillbilly. You will be seperated from your daughter. Nothing comes between Big Pharma and a dollar for the shareholders. You will be identified as an impediment to her "cure".

You will see her tongue writhe uncontrolably in her mouth. You will see her chemicaly Lobotomised. Her Mother will in desperation fall at the feet of the medical establishment to "Do Something". Even if that "something" is to destroy her personality.

If her Humanity WRIT LARGE is treated with the more potent cocktails she will die from Leukemia, an unfortunate side effect of the "cure".

I speak from first hand experience.

  • Thu, Mar 21, 2013 - 03:01pm

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    Greg Snedeker

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    Sorry Arthur

that you've seen the ugly side of this issue… I can't even imagine the emotional side of this. My daughter is considered "normal" and is ahead of the curve in all her learning, so for now all is well. I'm thinking about the future when she is a teenager and her brain is changing rapidly. Will she continue to be so lucky? So your warnings are definitely heard!..and Whitacre (sp?.. Whitaker, Robert) talks about how the State can step in and mandate these drugs without the parents consent. It's awful!

How many teenagers get put on these drugs to "save them, or curb their behavior." When I was a teenager, there was always the kid in class that couldn't control herself/himself, sometimes that kid was me. They didn't medicate us, they sent us out in the hall for a few minutes. Now the answer seems to be medication. What the hell are we doing to our kids?

  • Thu, Mar 21, 2013 - 03:36pm

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    Arthur Robey wrote:Thank you

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Thank you for doing the background research for me Andy. I was relying on my memory…

Whitacre will cure your naivety.

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Perhaps I did sounds a little patronising. I don't think I'm naive however and do think we need protecting from the Pharmaceutical industry. I'm in the UK, and having visited the USA am still amazed at the direct advertising to patients that it allowed. [it's not allowed here] From my 20 + years of working as a doctor the direction of travel has definitely been away from 'closeness' between doctors and the pharmacy industry. Being made to declare conflicting interests, and not accepting any 'gifts' or gifts in kind at all. This was very common in past decades.

I very much view the Pharmacy industry as just a business to make money, which happen to be tablets and pills! So when talking to 'them' I instantly put on a set of filters/glasses. These are big and powerful companies with much money to lobby and 'create' political  and medical support.

I appreciate all your comments on the site.

Andy

  • Thu, Mar 21, 2013 - 04:27pm

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    I doubt my opinion is wanted here but for those interested

I am going through Whitaker's book no shocks. Big Pharma is corrupt and has been for decades.

I now understand people's hatred of psychiatry on these forums. It is unfortunate and tragic.

I just wish the naysayers (I do not mean the families of people afflicted with illness) would offer more therapeutic alternatives. Perhaps this would be a helpful discussion to those still struggling with these issues. I think that was the intent of the thread.

If medicine is not the answer, what else can be done?

 

  • Fri, Mar 22, 2013 - 01:37am

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VeganD,

Good point.  For myself or my child, therapy and counseling is where I would start before going with chemicals (if ever), but one of the problems is that insurance companies often will not cover these options until after drugs have been tried, and even then coverage is often limited. Insurance often doesn't want to cover these options because they take more time and money, but Whitaker's books are indicating that our addiction to magic pills is costing us more, both in health and dollars. His findings, as you know, have shown that in the long run (emphasize long-run), those that never went on neuroleptics at all did better than those that did. I don't hate psychiatry, but the relationship between it and big Pharma has to be questioned in light of what's happening. Many of our youth are being put on these drugs, and my past post in regard to upping doses comes from many direct experiences as an educator. I actually questioned the administration about one of my advisees in regard to her meds. The result was to have my advisee reassigned to another advisor…message to me: don't question a doctor's authority, and if you do, the institution could potentially be sued…i.e. keep your mouth shut. The student was later withdrawn, only to be passed on to another school. This happens daily in our educational system.

 

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