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  • Tue, Feb 10, 2009 - 12:22pm

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    mstjane

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    Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

I am looking in to relocating my family back to New Zealand and setting up a self sustained community (preferrable off grid)

Are there any other kiwis on the forum who are overseas or in New Zealand who would like to start a discussion please?

 

  • Tue, Feb 10, 2009 - 02:19pm

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    Brainless

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    Re: Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

Not a kiwi but a ‘kaaskop’ (Cheesehead), meaning from The Netherlands. Also looking to relocate to New Zealand for a lifestyle change and a good place to educate children (5 and 6).

My alternative is going to Thailand but the reason i left Thailand is because the education standards are low. International school are very expensive and also rather low quality. New Zealand, especially the north is in my mind an excellent location.

However i have difficulty getting a visa, but i am able to get a study visa for  the children and me and my wife would be able to go too. Budget is a little short to put both children in an international school but i read somewhere that local schools are able to take in international students at a reasonable price. I am looking for a contact that would be able to give me some pointers for obtaining such information. And as we are here on this website, the reasons for relocating are i think obvious. 

  • Tue, Feb 10, 2009 - 10:01pm

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    Re: Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

Hi MstJane and Brainless,

I am a Kiwi based in the Bay of Islands and an enthusiastic supporter of CM and the crash course.

Happy to offer any help I can to CCers looking at moving here. We are not without our problems but then who isn’t? Low government debt (18% GDP as of last year) and about 75% electricity from renewables, good rainfall and climate and low poulation densities are real positives in my book.

Immigration is reasonably straightfoward, here is a company that offers an online calculater to see if you are a likely candidate for residency.  http://www.malcolmpacific.com/

I work in real estate and am getting a lot of inquiry from overseas, not chasing clients just happy to offer help.

I will keep an eye on this discussion board or contact me direct  [email protected]

Cheers,

David

  • Tue, Feb 10, 2009 - 10:15pm

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    Re: Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

Hi Brainless,schooling in New Zealand is free (if you are a resident or in the process of becoming one) and the State education system is to a good standard, there are other options if you like.
This is a private school in my area:

Home


State school: http://www.riverview.school.nz/
also an alternative immigration consultant: http://www.boiic.co.nz/

Cheers,
David

  • Tue, Feb 10, 2009 - 10:53pm

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    Re: Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

[quote=mstjane]

I am looking in to relocating my family back to New Zealand and setting up a self sustained community (preferrable off grid)

Are there any other kiwis on the forum who are overseas or in New Zealand who would like to start a discussion please?

 

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Hi MstJane here is a link to permaculture in NZ:  http://www.permaculture.org.nz/showAllContacts.php

There are a number of eco village type communities already up and running, many with a history of several decades. These may be a better option than starting from scratch yourself. These ones in lower Northland:

http://www.otamatea.org.nz

http://www.myspace.com/kahikateavillage

Cheers,

David.

  • Wed, Feb 11, 2009 - 12:40pm

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    Re: Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

Hi Larina,

Thank you for your responses. I did the assesment but i just don;t have enough points to qualify. I am qualified enough only not have the papers (diplomas) to prove it. Being autodidact and an entrepeneur is a good thing in normal live but when you encounter officialdom it is a different story.

However the goal is to live in New Zealand for around 10-12 years after we would return to Thailand or The Netherlands. Children have been taught Thai and enough english to hold a conversation. To give them the best oppertunities schooling in New Zealand looks like a very attractive option. I contacted a few schools by e-mail but the responses are still not received. having two children makes it difficult to send them to an international school. Sending only one would be out of the question. I read that normal government school accept students from other countries and the costs are much lower then the exclusively international schools. However finding those schools has been unsuccessful, i am a member of a few forums that discuss emigration to New Zealand but this topic does not get much attention because most are going for residency and of course most people participating in those forums don’t have local knowledge. I would appreciate a few school addresses in the area of Whangarei or any other coastal area north of Auckland.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer. 

  • Wed, Feb 11, 2009 - 01:33pm

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    Re: Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

Dear Brainless

I find when trying to get info that I telephone and speak to someone and eventually get help.

My daughter has recently returned from NZ and I mentioned your query and she need more info on type of schools you are looking for.

Ministry of Education in New Zealand web site will have more info http://www.minedu.govt.nz/

  • Wed, Feb 11, 2009 - 03:47pm

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    Re: Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

Hi Brainless, sounds like you have been doing your homework but my understanding is that you would need residency to live in NZ for the length of time you propose.I suggest you EMail the immigration consultants with these questions and a disclosure of your qualifications, experiance and financial position. They do offer a free initial consultation.
The education department link should help with likely cost of paying to have your chidren in a state school but doesn’t solve the problem of you being free to live here for an extended period yourself.
Best of Luck,
David.

  • Wed, Feb 11, 2009 - 05:26pm

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    Re: Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

Hi.  I am in NZ too, in the lower North Island.

If you know someone in NZ, can’t you come here under "sponsorship".  Those people act as a guarantee for you for a while so you don’t cost the country any money.  But they let you in on that basis ???

 

  • Wed, Feb 11, 2009 - 07:48pm

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    Re: Kiwi overseas looking for New Zealand contacts

My children are 5 and 6 years old. They can get a student visa. My wife and i will be their guardians and will be able to get a visa. As long as the kids study and are younger then 18 years old the ‘guardian’visa is available. This will give us around 12 years. My wife would like to study English and follow some vocational courses. After that she would be able to apply for a study to work visa which gives an opening to go for residence. But permenant residency is not the goal now. It might become a wish when we lived a few years in New Zealand. When that moment arrives there are study and work possibilities that will enable it.

I don’t need to work in New Zealand as i have my income from my Dutch company, and i can fulfill the financial requirements for the study and guardias visas. Immigration agents are unfortunately expensive (for what they deliver) and if you get the wrong one (i did once) not reliable. My information thusfar comes directly from the New Zealand Immigration website and the embassy. The described way is for us the only one to be able to live in New Zealand, which for us is more than enough.

It does however make finding school more difficult. I would prefer a governmnet school, non religous, that accepts internationals students for a reasonable fee. Reasonable would be max 5000 NZ$ per year per child. I read on a website once about someone that found a school that was as little as 300 NZ$ per year, but that is probably a rare find. 

Thanks mstjane for that link. I somehow did not find that resource in my searches. 

I don’t have friends or family in New Zealand. A sponsorship will be difficult. On top of that i am not really looking for a job as i already have my own business that keeps me occupied. My wife however would like to go work again and wishes to follow an English course first as her english is not adequate enough.

Thanks a lot for the advice already given! I really appreciate that.

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