Kamala Harris is coming for Your Guns

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  • Thu, Aug 13, 2020 - 07:12am

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    Left-wingers defecting to Trump or 3rd parties

I really hope Tim Pool is right on this one:





It does look like a lot of that is indeed going on!:





 

  • Thu, Aug 13, 2020 - 05:06pm

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    Reply To: Kamala Harris is coming for Your Guns

It’s disheartening that the Democrats have chosen a candidate who is clearly, to anyone with medical training, experiencing progressive dementia and then compounded their error by selecting Harris over other candidates with more integrity such as Tulsi Gabbard or even a communist like Bernie Sanders (who is at least congruent with and halfway honest about his ideology).

The democrats didn’t choose her, the democratic party establishment chose her.

  • Thu, Aug 13, 2020 - 10:44pm

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    Kamala Harris is coming for Your Guns

As a proud gun-owning, blue tribe liberal, I just don’t think anybody is coming for my guns. The democrats might make noise about an assault rifle ban, but I just don’t think anybody can reasonably argue that there will be any kind of real gun control in the US in the near future. For better or worse. And if you need an AR to hunt, I would modestly opine that you really just need more time sighting in at the range. Showing up for a caribou or moose hunt with an AR is like going hunting in skinny jeans…you can do it, but you will be laughed at. A lot. Personal favorite weapon: Savage arms rifle, chambered in 30.06, a real tack driver and good enough for anything except maybe brown bear. But let’s agree to not argue over caliber, gets more heated than politics!  🙂

  • Thu, Aug 13, 2020 - 11:17pm

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    Trump’s mercenaries are coming to your town if your mayor is a democrat

Trump’s mercenaries in Venezuela must be pissed that they didn’t get assigned to Portland.  Then again, their Portland brothers had to use unmarked minivan rentals to sweep people off the street.  They should quit and join the local swat teams.  At least they are equipped like an Iraqi occupation force.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8606401/U-S-mercenaries-sentenced-20-years-Venezuelan-court-failed-attempt-oust-Maduro.html

  • Fri, Aug 14, 2020 - 01:13am

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    USA gun stats: US isn’t comparable to Canada or UK

America has 330million people relatively scattered over  3,531,905 sq. miles, except for some large cities.  Over 14 cities have populations >1 million; NYC has 8 million, and LA 4million. The population is very diverse in racial percentages with those identified as white making only about 50%.  The second largest group includes a number of nationalities/ethnicites, with the third group claiming mixed heritage. Latinos have been the fastest growing segment in recent years. Our immigrants per year are at least 900K.

In contrast, the UK  has >90% Anglo-Saxon native citizens. The entire UK is the size of one US state.  Same culture and in a small area, it might be easier to police without weapons although the skyrocketing knife crime seems to offset that. When you look at Canadian demographics versus the USA, you’ll see differences too.

The total population of Canada is a little less than 38 million with whites at 58.9% and Chinese second at 7%.  The rest together are Indian, Native indigenous people, Filipinos, Europeans/ UK. All concentrated mainly near cities on a vast land mass. Only 3 cities have a population over 1 million.  Although Canada is a magnet for immigration, it accounts for 350K/year with most from Asia. The society is somewhat homogenous. The Canadians are known as pretty polite and laid back for the social norm. Although not allowed in cities, I’ll bet the rural folks have weapons to protect themselves and livestock with all that land.

Of all the US gun deaths, sadly suicides are by far the most common at 6/10 in 2017. What is tragic is the number of deaths more than the method. In China, they take poison and jump off skyscrapers. In the UK, it’s pills and hanging.  Not sure one way is gentler than the next.

In the US larger cities with the greatest gun restrictions like NYC and Chicago, gun crime is rampant. Non-suicide gun deaths are mainly associated with gangs and drugs per FBI. Non-Hispanic black males had the highest gun death rate with 42.8 per 100,000 overall.   I wish our stats were lower, but it seems more a crime issue than a gun one.

According to an analysis of laws, banning guns doesn’t work.  “The three most effective state laws in reducing homicide rates were universal background checks, prohibiting people who have committed a violent offense from owning a handgun and “may-issue” as opposed to “shall-issue” concealed-carry permits.”    I agree with number two.

https://247wallst.com/economy/2019/08/04/the-gun-control-laws-that-are-most-likely-to-work-are-not-about-banning-weapons-study-says/

In rural US, law enforcement response times can be hours. Then there’s the wildlife. If a randy buck accidentally breaks through your car windshield, you better put Bambi down quickly as they’ve been known to injure/ kill humans inside. Feral dogs often run in packs attacking livestock and sometimes humans. Guns for the average person there are mainly about self-preservation or sport, not maliciously harming another person.

So I guess it boils down to personal experiences and evaluation of threat level whether a gun is an option for you.  I would like to keep that right to choose. Know that historically in places where guns have been banned, the only ones using them are the military against the citizens. And that’s never turned out well.

 

 

  • Fri, Aug 14, 2020 - 02:30am

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    “An AR to hunt”

David Henry,

Respectfully, no one is proposing to use an AR to hunt wildlife – you are very correct in your use of a 30.06 for that purpose.  I personally use a .308 for whitetail and mule deer and a .300 Win Mag for Elk or Nilgai.

The AR is for shooting people should the need arise.

Rector

  • Fri, Aug 14, 2020 - 02:52am

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    “An AR to hunt”

used quite a lot to hunt nuisance species, ie. feral pigs. Follow up shots are apparently much easier.

  • Fri, Aug 14, 2020 - 06:32am

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    “Hate facts” about US crime and gun stats from the FBI

The Color of Crime:

• Black males age 18-35 years of age are only 1.8% of the U.S. population, yet have committed 52% of homicides from 1980-2008. Black males (all ages) are only 6% of the U.S. population, yet commit 46% of all violent crimes, and 50% of the gun homicides. If Blacks were removed from the equation, the U.S. gun homicide rate would be equal to Great Britain’s, who have some of the most restrictive gun control laws in the world.

• The Black homicide rate is 17 per 100,000, a rate over 9x that of the White rate, and comparable to some of those most murderous countries in the world. If the homicide rate for the U.S. were the White-only rate, the homicide rate would drop 84%, making the U.S. rate comparable to European countries.

• According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics 2018 survey of criminal victimization, there were 593,598 interracial violent victimizations (excluding homicide) between Blacks and Whites last year, including White-on-Black and Black-on-White attacks. Blacks committed 537,204 of those interracial felonies, or 90 percent, and Whites committed 56,394 of them, or less than 10 percent.

• Blacks constitute 13% of the U.S. population, but represent 27% of all criminal activity in the U.S.

• According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting for 2018, of the homicide victims for whom race was known, 53.3% were Black, 43.8% were White and 2.8% were of other races. In cases where the race of the offender was known, 54.9% were Black, 42.4% were White, and 2.7% were of other races.

• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent. This means that a Black is 27 times more likely to attack a White person than vice versa.

• For each one standard deviation increase in proportion of Black population, firearm homicide rate is increased by 82.8%. Therefore, the U.S. has a Black problem, not a gun or violent crime problem. When Blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-Blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.

• 40% of gun crime occurs in just three cities: 596 (10%) – St Louis, MO, 53 (11%) – Detroit, MI, and 1,527 (27%) – Chicago, IL.

• Murder is the leading cause of death for Black men, ages 15 to 34. Their murderers are other Black men 93 percent of the time.

• Black males between 16-35 years of age are only 2.0% of the population, yet commit 72% of the street crime in America.

• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is Black.

• If New York City were all White, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent. In an all-White Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.

• Every year, approximately 6,000 blacks are murdered. This is a number greater than white and Hispanic homicide victims combined, even though blacks are only 12 percent of the national population. Blacks of all ages are killed at six times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined. That black death-by-homicide rate is a function of the black crime rate. The national rate of homicides committed by blacks is eight times that of whites and Hispanics combined. Black males between the ages of 14 and 17 commit homicide at 10 times the rate of white and Hispanic male teens combined.

• Homicide is not the only crime that is vastly racially disproportionate. New York City is representative of other crime spreading across the country. Blacks are 23 percent of New York’s population, but they commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime, according to the victims of, and witnesses to, those crimes. Whites are 33 percent of the New York City’s population, but they commit less than 2 percent of all shootings, 4 percent of all robberies, and 5 percent of all violent crime.

• The United States is third in murders throughout the world, but if you omit just five Black cities (Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, St Louis, and New Orleans) from the equation, then the United States is fourth from the bottom.

• Black serial killers have comprised over half of documented serial killers since the dawn of the 21st century at 56 percent, making up a total of 40 percent in years dating back to 1900. Blacks constituted 44% of the known serial killers during the 1995-2004 period and 38.2% of all multiple murderers (serial, mass, and spree combined) during 1976-1998 period. During the 2000-2010 decade, 62% of serial killers were Black.

  • Fri, Aug 14, 2020 - 06:43am

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…I must have lived in rural america  too long. Those stats are appalling. Where did you get them, if you don’t mind.

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  • Fri, Aug 14, 2020 - 08:42am

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    Kamala Harris is coming for Your Guns

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