I’ve reached a turning point

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  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 12:47pm

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    neuweiler

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    I’ve reached a turning point

Subtitle: Am I becoming a sociopath and an egoist?

Quick intro: I would describe myself as an empathic person, idealist and utopist. I love the philosophy of StarTrek (TNG) and despise harming other creatures (I apologize to a mosquito for taking his life, really). Based on this background of course I started a Telegram channel to find likeminded people in order to prevent the success of vaccination campaings in our region. I wanted to save as many people as possible – especially children.

But today I’ve changed my mind – entirely:

  • After watching first hand how the police sealed a restaurant because the owner refused to verify the vaccination status of her guests. Instead she served them in an open tent. Seeing her collapsing on the stairs, helping to carry her away while 6 police officers just stood by.
  • After feeling more and more pressure in and around our country (Switzerland) – in Italy you even have to provide a certificate when working in home office or they can/must lay you off – how crazy is that!
  • After seeing how they stop paying unemployment support for unvaccinated.
  • After reading that hospitals want to refuse treating unvaxed.
  • After seeing how in Australia they prepare to forcefully vax people or put them in camps
  • After seeing all the violence applied on peaceful protesters in many countries

… I got more and more afraid about being able to provide for my family and keep everybody unvaxed and healthy. I knew that being afraid is a bad state and one becomes vulnerable. Then it suddenly it hit me. The following thought process may seem a bit evil but somehow it relieved a burden from my shoulders:

With all the ads and demonstrations up to now everyone had a chance to inform him/herself about the topic and possible adverse effects. Most likely everybody has one friend who stated a warning in some way. So, if they choose to stay ignorant and want to vax everybody out of fear that otherwise this plandemic never ends, then go ahead – vax yourself and even your children – the more and the faster the better – if possible even the 4th jab this year. Because then the adverse effects will appear more focused. The chance of a public outcry of the majority is much bigger this way – if not 30 people suffer a heart attack during sports in one week but 200 or 500, it might bring the necessary change.

Please understand me right here: I still don’t wish any person any harm – even the stupid ones and especially not children. But if they in their mass psychosis continue to make it harder and harder for us, as they endanger our health, our jobs and want to take away everything we’ve got (freedom, property, food) just to get everyone jabbed, I really don’t give a fuck about them anymore. If it helps to wake up the majority and in consequence keeping me and my family safe from their actions, go ahead and throw yourselfes under the bus if you really have to.

If you’d have told me I would write something like that one year ago, I’d have told you: “No way, I’m not a sociopath!”. But here I am. And I know that the other side thinks the same way about us – but at least I don’t want to force anyone to do anything against their will. What do you think? Is this a normal reaction when getting cornered more and more?

  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 01:05pm

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    sketchypoodle

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    I’ve reached a turning point

Well if that makes you a sciopath then that’s two of us.
I’m feeling the same way.

  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 01:21pm

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    Andrea Matheson

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    I’ve reached a turning point

This is so sad but I know just what you mean. I now understand how people who are abused often grow up to be abusers. When you are attacked and having your livelhood, right to healthcare and now children threatened as I feel, how can you not be angry? And when the people around you are so dense they cannot see that this is all about control and won’t even allow you to talk about any of it? My life is this dystopian nightmare and they are just shaking their heads and thinking I deserve this for not getting a dangerous shot. They are my closest friends and family and now I do not see how we ever come back from, “haha… remember the time you didn’t care when my human rights were removed?” I was upset so many days about what might happen to them, and urged them to see that we were being divided and no matter what not to let that happen. And now I am numb and don’t care and just want something to wake them up, whatever that is. We are dealing with situations and emotions we have never even conceived of. Something needs to change soon.

  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 01:22pm   (Reply to #2)

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    Real Aussie nurse discussing vaccinated patients in ER

https://vimeo.com/unitedaustraliaparty/review/642908668/c71175bb97

  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 01:27pm   (Reply to #2)

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    stevedaly

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    Liberal comedian on stopping transmission from unvaxxed

Jimmie Dore





  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 01:30pm

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    Canuck21

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    I’ve reached a turning point

Yes I agree too. If what it takes to wake them up is their children dying — well, I am sorry for that and I would not ever wish it for them but I have to emotionally disengage from that now for the sake of my own health. My siblings gaslight me, my friends gaslight me… and yet — there are glimmers of hope — look what I found today on the Irish Times about Waterford, the most heavily vaccinated area in Ireland — finally, some common sense that the lockdowns and jabs just postpone the inevitable:

Lack of natural immunity sees Waterford hit hardest in fourth Covid wave, GP says
County was spared in previous waves and was ‘fertile soil’ for Delta variant, local doctor says.

Waterford is experiencing the worst level of Covid-19 in the country because it was spared during earlier waves of the virus, a prominent general practitioner in the county has said.

Five of the six local authority areas in the county have a 14-day incidence rate of more than 1,000 cases per 100,000 of the population, meaning that in the last fortnight one person in every 100 has tested positive.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/lack-of-natural-immunity-sees-waterford-hit-hardest-in-fourth-covid-wave-gp-says-1.4721710

 

  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 01:32pm

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Strategically sound imho. At some point it’s going to be a necessary to function. I’m holding out until then. My region has the worst rates of vaccination in the country. We’ve very rural, have an inbuilt distrust on government, and generally don’t rely on modernity to function in the way other areas do. Although in someways -eg tractor and irrigation parts, we’re very vulnerable.

Just do it at the last possible moment that allows you to still function. Sad that more people will be harmed, but perhaps as it becomes more blatantly obvious, it will be net positive? Good luck 👍

  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 01:42pm

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    TSW

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A lot of us have reached a turning point, unfortunately, we have to confront the bully at some point and that time is coming fast.  I don’t think your decision makes you a sociopath, were all going to have to make very tough decisions in the near future.

  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 01:59pm

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    Stph

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    “Consider it Evolution in Action”

I think that is a Jerry Pournelle quote, so I am quoting it.  Aside from that, it has been on my thoughts for a long, long, long time that humankind needs an upgrade in perception and moral-compass in order to survive as recognizably human in a world where technology keeps advancing but individual responsibility is actually being reduced.

Excepting the mentally ill, and especially the children who are not yet at an age where they ought to be able to make life-and-death decisions on their own, IMO it is probably in man-kinds best long-term interests, that those who can’t govern themselves enough without “government” and other 3rd party mandates, ought to removed from the breeding pool.

Isn’t it true that those who always act like robots, unable to update their programming and correct themselves, trusting government instead of using independent judgement and their own moral compass, are, in a way, unfit to be part of humanity going forward?

It pains me to actually say that — because I don’t wish harm, much less a horrifying death, on any person of generally good will (and I think only a real psychopath would have supported instituting the current dystopian nightmare) but:    Aren’t we proving the Morlock’s case when we act like Eloi?  Aren’t we proving we are unfit to govern ourselves and unfit for freedom when we persist in never learning out lessons and never learning to take full responsibility for ourselves?

We’ve removed evolutionary pressure so people can stay alive through the entirety of their lives and never evolve, never have to grow up.  How wise is that to blindly remove evolutionary pressure?

“The highest possible stage in moral culture is when we recognize that we ought to control our thoughts.” -Charles Darwin _The Descent of Man_

I suspect that a lot of the elites probably figure if we are dumb enough to dance and sing and worship “authority” on command — that we choose to live as Eloi — we aren’t deserving of the life we have and probably ought to be culled out of the gene pool.

I don’t totally disagree.  Although I would modify that to say that those are Morlocks ought to be culled out of the gene pool at the same time.   Only Time Travelers (self governing, self-sufficient, enabled with a moral compass and a willingness to self-improve) should be allowed to go forward….if humanity is to have a future.  This business of ruling vs ruled — social hierarchy and conformity of the masses — needs to be end.  Doubtless, it served us in prehistoric, tribal,  times.  But it is now a blight, and utter hobble, on our future.  I don’t think we can survive — and I certainly don’t think we deserve to survive — if we can’t rise above ourselves, our hard-wiring, and our history.

Hopefully that makes some sense.  For what it’s worth, if I sound too harsh, some days I’m not even sure that I deserve to be taking up space on this earth as we transition through peak oil and this clarifying perception of Morlock vs Eloi.  I think that, and then I pray for guidance, and the will to rise above myself, and my comfort zone, to become a better (not necessarily a “nicer”) person.

  • Sun, Nov 07, 2021 - 02:06pm

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    Bonesaw93

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    I’ve reached a turning point

Honestly I pity a lot of these people more than anything.  Was at a wedding the other weekend and listened to people get on their soapbox and preach about how every person should be vaccinated.  I’m one of if not the only unvaccinated person there.  I have worked in drug development for nearly 15 years and know the science of all of this inside an out.  Literally the only people who have challenged my as to why I’m not vaccinated have been my parents.  I walked them through the numbers and they’ve never brought it up again.  People also can’t grasp when I say that it’s a good idea for some people to get vaccinated because it doesn’t fit into their binary world view of vax vs antivax.  For these reasons I really pity these people, one day they may realize how dumb their position is as they see this whole thing turn at some point.

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